If there is an election.....

Fennel followed by an examination before being allowed to Vote!

What's a citizens Assembly GG3? Are they elected?
Anja I didn't like to add that, but it's such a huge decision we need careful preparation/education.

On “Today” earlier this morning.
Nick Robinson “Good morning Chancellor, what first attracted you to a spending spree on the eve of a General Election?”
Glad I am not the only cynical one here
(Ranks along with “What first attracted you to multi millionaire, Debbie McGee?” doesn’t it?)

I can’t understand why anybody wants to give away our country and pay billions a year for the privilege and have no say in any decisions made!

I thank the Lord I’m not young!

They are drawn-up rather like a Jury. This may give you some idea but there is a great deal about Citizens Assemblies on the internet Fennel.

This: www.citizensassembly.ie/en/

It may be that Johnson will not get his election at all after he failed to get the necessary majority last night anyway.
I have just read this by a Professor Sir John Curtice, a Polling expert

Because Prime Minister Boris Johnson tried and failed to use the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act to call an election on Wednesday, it may not be possible to call an election using the same method again
There is a question mark as to whether or not the government will be allowed to bring the same motion back again on Monday or Tuesday because the convention is you cannot deal with the same issue inside the House of Commons in the same session
The government might be forced to call an election another way, says Sir John, for example by trying to pass a bill which says notwithstanding the Fixed Terms Parliaments Act we're going to have an election on this date. Then the problem is potentially because the government has said we are proroguing Parliament next week will there be time to get such a bill through
What a monumental cock- up.

Our Great Leader in Scotland is currently recruiting a Citizens Assembly to discuss what a future Scotland might look like. We're all being invited to apply and it will be "made up of 100 members of the public, the Assembly will be overseen by two independent co-conveners, be able to call on expert witnesses and have its own secretariat. Deliberative sessions will be live streamed and evidence published". There was one convened in N Ireland to look at the issue of abortion.

There are pros and cons and certainly in Scotland there is concern that its remit may be too wide, there's obviously risk of bias and/or extremism, and it doesn't have any legislative powers to enact decisions.

Sirchenjin -
" it doesn't have any legislative powers to enact decisions."
So it seems that only Parliament, both Houses, have these legislative powers.

Yes - and the Scottish Parliament here for devolved areas. A Citizens Assembly is more of a sort of influencing body which is supposed to represent the broad range of views held by the electorate and which seeks to influence Parliament (which then ignores/accepts as it sees fit).

Well Jo Johnson has resigned now so even his own family are deserting him.
Surely Boris must see he is stuffed?
And dumping Cummings would be a good start.

Of course there is always this fellow.....

GillT57

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1174253/brexit-news-no-deal-boris-johnson-bank-of-england-mark-carney

The Remain campaign was based on blatant lies from both Osborne and Carney. Both of these Remainers have reluctantly had to admit their prophesies of doom were wrong.

The number of people in employment is up since 2016, they both predicted massive job losses from day after referendum.

They predicted house prices would dip to scare people with a mortgage and simultaneously to rise to scare people wanting to get on housing ladder. House prices are stable.

I shall be voting for Boris who is only leader trying to deliver the vote of the referendum. Lib Dems want to revoke and Labour want us in Custom Union, Common Agricultural Policy and Single Market so not really out at all as diminishes UK ability to trade with countries not also in Single Market.

If Remain had won vote we would have stayed in all even though costing the UK as one of only 5 net contributors out of 27. Brexiteers would have been disappointed but accepted the vote.

Parliamentry Remainers are not carrying out vote of their constituents. Yvette Cooper in constituency who voted 70% leave yet tries to stop Brexit at every turn. I wonder what will happen to her 19,000 safe Labour seat at next GE?

Thanks to this rotten parliament it will cost us £1 billion every month to stay in, with not much back in return.

I knew exactly what I voted for and so did other Brexiteers. Why do Remainers always insist Brexiteers did not know what they were voting for?

If Scotland wants to vote for autonomy then let it. I don't think it will as there is no guarantee from EU it will be allowed to remain in EU without rest of UK and it will have to make a new application and accept the Euro.

Absolutely no reason why countries who share borders such as England and Scotland cannot live next to each other and trade on free trade agreement. If Scotland were to re-enter EU then of course EU would want to erect border patrols to protect its previous single market.

Most kind of you to 'let' us.

You're right we would have to make a separate application but given that more than 60% of us wanted to stay in then I can imagine we might be quite keen to do that - esp if the alternative is an extreme right wing Govt that takes us out without a deal.

Well, if you voted for this chaos, you should be ashamed of yourself, newnanny.

Many of those who voted for this chaos were fooled by the Leave liars.

They need not be ashamed of themselves. Many were fooled, but have now woken up to the truth. If you are one of those you can be proud of yourself.

the SCOTSMAN newspaper poll today says 64% of voters will vote SNP in an upcoming election.7% for Tory and 6% Labour .The SCOTSMAN despite its name is a unionist supporting paper .The Times figures yesterday were also encouraging.
That will confirm the mandate for Indpendence ,sorry Sirchengin not what you want to see.Or maybe the messs WM is making might make you jump ship?

... it doesn't have any legislative powers to enact decisions.

If that is what you want it is certainly not the purpose of the assemblies. They are designed to take place before the question for the referendum is put together and can "advise" on that. The intention is to allow the electorate to feel more knowledgeable, not to influence views. I really don't think that can be a bad thing. They take place over weekends and over a fairly long period if the subject demands that. Experts in various areas will present papers and then round- table discussion takes place. Each table will have a facilitator to ensure the discussion moves forward and does not break down. These weekend meetings are live streamed so all can increase their knowledge. That is the intention of the assembly.

I don't see why the decision to have a referendum on Scotland wanting to be part of UK or not cannot be a devolved decision and let them choose when they want referendums providing they fund them themselves. The point with referendum decisions is they are simple eg. in or out there can't be a bit of each. That was mistake May made and why we are in this mess. She tried to please both leave and remain instead of getting us out with a clean break and simple trade deal. Scotland and N.I voted overwhelmingly to remwin in EU ans England and Wales voted overwhelmingly to leave EU. It makes sense to me for England and Wales to leave with a clean break and simple free trade deal made easier with no Backstop needed. No need to force Scotland or NI to leave if they want to remain or England and Wales to be forced to remain when majority want out. Let each country go with its own majority.

Granny bags- re your suggestion as to the question on a second referendum.....so the 48% who voted remain get one option and the 52% who voted leave have to split their vote between 2. Is that what you, Remainers, call democracy i.e. let's skew the vote just in case the uneducated dare to vote leave again! There should be NO second referendum but, if there was one, the question should simply be the same as the first.

Are you really admitting that you're uneducated?

What an unpleasant question.

Unpleasant and goady question growstuff.

Why?

I didn't write "let's skew the vote just in case the uneducated dare to vote leave again".

I've never suggested that the uneducated (whoever they are) shouldn't be allowed to vote. Quizqueen did that.

You're reading something which isn't there.