Labour Party Conference - chaos reigns.

grandad indeed

Grandad That's a tad unfair. I don't think Day6 is a philanderer and a charlatan. Some people (not me, of course) are even claiming that the Tory Party leader gave public funds to a female associate in exchange for nooky. Oh my!

Meanwhile … back to the Labour Party conference … it appears that the membership has forced a vote on Brexit against Corbyn's wishes.

growstuff
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I am a remainer, and long for this brexit nonsense to be finished with.

But I can absolutely understand the logic of the Corbyn stance, and could support it if that is what goes through.

But if I was at the conference I would vote for remain, because with all my being I feel it is the best for the U.K.

Corbyn has come off the fence re leave or remain-

He is neutral ?

I have made a post of the following text in an alternative thread on political debate within parties. However, as there are two such threads currently running on the forum i will also place it in this one.

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Political party conferences were originally brought forward as events where all aspects of policy were to be subjects of forthright debate and in that resolution.

It is only in recent times that such conferences have become media events with debate and disagreement being subverted by the executive for fear of press reaction.

Instead of that forthright debate we have in these times ministers and shadow ministers parading on and off the stage to loud music in the likeness of Greek Gods making bland speeches to which little or no alternative argument is allowed.

Let's have an end to such falsehood and as with the Labour conference of last year and this have real forthright debate brought to the floor of the conference with grassroots activists leading that argument.

That's the way it should be. Sod what the press think let's have real debate and argument as that will benefit our democracy and those political parties which allow such action.

Correct.

Corbyn as leader has to try to reconcile both wings of the Labour Party. By far the biggest is the remain, but Labour in turn draws most of its votes from Brexit voting areas, who voted brexit as a backlash against austerity and years of neglect.

I think tbh his position is entirely logical although.

That was to annie

Corbyn didn’t know about Lansman proposing Tom Watson
being sacked ?

He was at the NEC meeting but left five minutes before Lansman proposed it !

Have you proof annie or opinion?

I know it to be true whitewave, if it was my opinion I would
have said ‘in my opinion’.

Ah then can you point me to the evidence, that Corbyn left because of the vote.

Leaving early doesn’t provide proof btw

The truth bit, Annie, is that Corbyn left the meeting before the motion was proposed. That's easily verifiable.

The 'opinion' is that Corbyn knew about the planned motion. Which no-one can possibly know is true unless one has real insider information. Do you have that, Annie?

Does anyone seriously think such a proposal went ahead without JC even knowing about it?

I didn’t say Corbyn left because of the vote , I did say he left minutes before the vote .

In my opinion, it’s rubbish to say Corbyn the leader of the party wasn’t told there was to be a move to get rid of his deputy leader at that meeting

Urmstongran , I doubt ‘seriously thinks’ .

Well, I don't know, Ug. Didn't prorogation go ahead without most of the Cabinet knowing about it?

Did the leader know Maizie ?

Whitewave and Grandad, if you resort to insulting a poster with different views from yours, I think you are truly desperate and it says more about you than it does me.

And Grandad - please point out the post in which I declare my love for Boris Johnson?

You claim he is "the current Tory party leader that he/she so loves"

Yet another lie - or if I am to be charitable - a lack of understanding from you.

I have never been a fan, but along with many others, I have been surprised and pleased that he seem about the only politician determined to break the deadlock over Brexit. He has gone way up in the estimation of many.

And way down in the estimation of many.

but Labour in turn draws most of its votes from Brexit voting areas, who voted brexit as a backlash against austerity and years of neglect

Brexit voters were concerned with NEGLECT, and their vote was a backlash against the Westminster Remainer elite and the London bubble. The disconnect between politicians and the electorate is still not understood in the HOC, or by many GN posters.

The lowest earning taxpayer, in what WERE Labour heartlands, (but no more) no longer wants to fund the EU to the tune of BILLIONS whilst there is so much in the UK which needs fixing. Neither do they want to bail out the Euro when that currency collapses. Whilst we are in the EU the UK is liable for any Euro currency crash/debts created by Brussels and EU banks.

I suspect though that they appreciate the EU grants that they have received - and are probably, sadly, expecting that the government will step in with this money after Brexit..

Labour Party want to abolish private schools and grammar schools.......they do not want the general public’s children to be able to “better” themselves.

When the private schools are closed and all the wealthiest folks move to be near the better state schools, the house prices sky rocket and yet again the poor suffer.

The truth bit, Annie, is that Corbyn left the meeting before the motion was proposed. That's easily verifiable

And one has to wonder why?

Corbyn slithers like a snake and cannot even stand up to be counted when his deputy's position and career is being discussed and endangered.

They use to call Blair "Teflon Tony" because tried to ensure nothing would stick. Looks like Corbyn is from the same Labour mould.