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How dare brexiteers jeopardise my daughter's life!!

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mcem Mon 23-Sept-19 18:25:25

My daughter has serious chronic health problems.
After an ileostomy, she depends on drugs to keep her digestive system working.
She has serious kidney problems with resulting UTI's and so needs specific antibiotics. Her GP today, while prescribing for her latest UTI has given her several weeks worth of antibiotics as a precaution. She'll inevitably need them over the next few months so now has a reserve supply.
Meantime, her father (my ex husband but a good friend) is equally concerned about his diabetes med's.
One brexiteer declared in a vox pop interview last week that he is prepared to do without his insulin if it means brexit goes ahead!
Well tell that to my daughter's two children (9 and 10)!!
How can anyone in their right mind accept/condone the fact that it's becoming ever clearer that normal folks like my family may suffer badly because of their short-sighted and uncaring attitudes - and that's before we get into the economics, the dishonesty and the self-serving politics of this chaos!

Greta Tue 24-Sept-19 10:57:35

What is becoming clear is that we are no longer a tolerant and compassionate country. Some comments on this thread are truly frightening; also the ignorance shown.

Mcem, I do understand how worried you are about your daughter. It is no consolation to you that some ladies on GN apparently know that your worries are totally unfounded. After all, they won, we lost and we should just get over it.

GrandmaJan Tue 24-Sept-19 11:52:20

Following on from my post yesterday. I’ve just finished seeing patients in my Nurse Practitioner Clinic and 4 patients were advised by their pharmacist to see us about a shortage of one or more of their meds. I easily changed to ones that were available (the same drug, different name) some of which are manufactured in the UK. UK and USA manufacturers are having supply problems but they aren’t all long term. Anyone concerned must see their GP or Nurse to sort it out. I’m concerned (as are my other colleagues who I discussed this thread with today) that doctors are making patients more anxious. There are drug manufacturers all over the world not just the EU.

humptydumpty Tue 24-Sept-19 12:14:30

Sadly Maggie's 'me me me' ethos still seems to govern some posters 2 decades on..

Urmstongran Tue 24-Sept-19 12:18:29

Thank you again GrannyJan

This second post must surely reassure many who are concerned.
?

Urmstongran Tue 24-Sept-19 12:19:08

- oops GrandmaJan
Sorry.

humptydumpty Tue 24-Sept-19 12:25:18

(sorry three decades...)

EllanVannin Tue 24-Sept-19 12:40:53

If anyone " suffers " it'll be us lot North of Watford Gap !!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 12:46:51

It seems that the general opinion is that there will have to be an extension, Brexit will not be happening on the 31st

newnanny Tue 24-Sept-19 12:57:15

The Health Secretary has said medication will be available. I believe I read something last week about awarding a contract to a ferry provider to bring in medication. More Remainer scaremongering does not help. We also get a lot of our drugs from countries outside of EU like India.

orly Tue 24-Sept-19 13:04:43

"may suffer"?

Isn't that hysteria?

Goodbyetoallthat Tue 24-Sept-19 13:08:08

I am a "remainer" so clearly lack a sense of humour & can't have a laugh about all of this. However I fail to be convinced by the I am a nurse practitioner, pharmacist etc so I know best argument.
We will just have to wait & see. However I really hope that those who require medication don't suffer & that it doesn't boil down to financial wherewithal in the end.

whywhywhy Tue 24-Sept-19 13:09:42

I'm sorry Mcem for all the worries that you have. I know that if I say I wished this bloody country would wake up and have another referendum then I will be vilified. I'm sending you love and hugs and hope that one day it can all be sorted out for the benefits of the people of this country and not the pockets of the likes of Boris!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:12:27

No you won’t be vilified why I think the zeitgeist is with you

JenniferEccles Tue 24-Sept-19 13:22:26

Whilst I do have sympathy for those worried about a possible shortage of meds I think their worries are unfounded.

The government has repeatedly said that they are prepared for a worst case scenario including medicines.

However Brexit will be blamed for absolutely everything long after we have escaped the EU clutches so all these doom and gloom scenarios will continue.

mcem Tue 24-Sept-19 13:22:27

Thanks why.
I am so tempted to say that I see a tiny glimmer of hope. There is discussion that a government of national unity may take over now that BJ's lies have been comprehensively outed.

Not being over optimistic but taking some comfort in the fact the truth might triumph.
Today's ruling is more than just brexit and was not directly related to the final decision BUT if there is some revival of respect for honesty we may just see some cracks appearing in the edifice of self-serving hypocrisy which is masquerading as democracy.

Loislovesstewie Tue 24-Sept-19 13:33:43

I am sorry to repeat myself but the specific insulin used by my AC is made in France and Denmark. I know other countries make insulin ( but the UK only makes animal insulin) and that in theory insulin could be imported from elsewhere BUT it took a very long time to get an insulin that seemed to work best. Before that happened there were constant trips to A&E with very high blood sugars ( hypers) and times when I had to call an ambulance as blood sugars were so low that they were hardly registering , there were also seizures taking place at regular intervals due to hypos. The insulin used now , coupled with a Freestyle Libre has greatly reduced both hyers and hypos. After 20 years I feel a bit less stressed by the situation.
So, unless exactly the same insulin can be found elsewhere I am still very concerned.
And if Boris can be untruthful to the Queen I hold out little hope that he will be truthful with us lesser mortals.

Sallywally1 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:34:52

I work for the NHS and I have heard from the horses’s mouth (a local pharmacist) that shortages of medicines are directly due to Brexit. Not sure why exactly but what I do know is that this is not why ordinary voters voted for Brexit. We are heading for disaster if Brexit is not stopped. Please don’t blame your GP or pharmacists for medicine shortages blame Niger Farage and his motley band.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 24-Sept-19 13:41:14

The Health Secretary has said medication will be available.

Sadly to believe that you would have to trust this government. Regardless of Brexit, in all my adult life I have never seen such a chaotic government in its day to day administration so I have little hope in the and no trust.

whywhywhy Tue 24-Sept-19 13:45:16

It's scary to think that our lives are in the hands of these clowns!

Peonyrose Tue 24-Sept-19 14:40:59

What but didn't make sense Whitewave, I know there were a couple of incorrect spelling, due to this old machine altering what I write, I don't re read and keep telling myself off about it. I will highlight the points I made.
I sympathise for anyone concerned about any shortages of drugs. I would be beside myself too if it were my daughter.
After a referendum, every obstacle possible was put up by those that lost, they have done everything to stop democratic law and are responsible for the whole sorry mess, the job losses etc. Years of indecision and bitterness. I feel they would have been tried for treason in the past. Lots of countries have referendums and I think this is the first time any people have taken the view that they didn't like the outcome so would derail it. So the mobsters rule. I worry for the youngsters inheriting this mess not of their making. It is shameful.
If anyone mentions un restricted amounts of people coming here, the race card is played, if fact it's played all the time now. It is not a matter of race, it's numbers, where and from whom does the money come from. From the hardworking public. Do many families are without home, never seen so many youngsters sleeping tough, it breaks your heart. They are the victims, just stop your busy lives and speak to them or work trying to help them and it becomes apparent.
The next point I make is this, if those that choose to disrupt our country and are not loyal to it, just self serving, no living by our jaws, choosing yo turn it on its head, well don't live in a democracy, try living with a dictator and see how long you would last.
Europe only want our money, not us. We could have traded with the world, not a broken Europe, it's finished.

growstuff Tue 24-Sept-19 14:42:44

Maybe you could justify some of your accusations.

growstuff Tue 24-Sept-19 14:44:07

Talk of treason and mobsters is a little … err … colourful.

Summerlove Tue 24-Sept-19 18:36:15

GG54, My geography is just fine thanks, I am well aware that many other companies produce medications. My point was, no one is going to be doing aid drops into the UK because it’s taking too long for people to go through every truck and every airline that flies in.

You do understand that even freight planes need to be checked with customs?

Barmeyoldbat Tue 24-Sept-19 19:32:18

My daughter is also in thejsame position, seizures and type diabetic and poor sight to round it all off. On top of being worried about her medication I am also having to deal with the lack of carers now as most of them were from the EU are leaving rather than try for settled status.

Under no circumstances would any of my family take medication that came from China, it is unreliable, even the their neighbouring countries distrust it. Gab54 what an uncaring post.

GracesGranMK3 Tue 24-Sept-19 21:07:54

After a referendum, every obstacle possible was put up by those that lost, they have done everything to stop democratic law and are responsible for the whole sorry mess, the job losses

Peonyrose such hate filled thoughts.

It seems to be that many who voted leave three years ago are unhappy because people promised you things they were not in a position to promise.

*You believed the referendum was legally binding. It wasn't.
*You believed that MPs have to keep their promises. They don't.
*You believed the executive (government) is senior to parliament. It isn't; it is junior.

Having either been misled or failing to understand, you then blame judges for their legal, not political ruling thus undermining our democracy further.

I find it shamefully, and also dangerous, that words such as "traitor", a word that can encouraged hate crimes, is being flung around by people who just are not getting agreement from the country, parliament, or the law.