How dare brexiteers jeopardise my daughter's life!!

Translation - "disruptions to fuel availability" mans power cuts.

Gabriella you think that "no other country would facilitate our having reasonable stocks" and that "No civililised country would deny those necessities being imported to any other country." but the problem will not be about civilised countries not facilitating us having stocks of medicines etc, it will be how those stocks will get into the country when transport systems are gridlocked by all the other importing vehicles, ships and planes that pile up waiting for their papers to be checked at the border.

"As it stands, each haulier entering Britain will be required to submit a 40-field declaration form per consignment before travel."

“The form takes 10 minutes to fill out. If you take a large retailer who has 8,000 consignments [in one lorry], that would take 170 people eight hours to process one trailer,” said Richard Burnett, RHA chief executive.

“That is the worst-case scenario. But even if you took the average trailer which has 400 consignments per delivery, that would take nine people eight hours to process.”

“I can’t for the life of me see how this is going to work,” Burnett added, pointing out that 11,000 trucks a day use Dover, triple the amount pre-single market in 1993.

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In case you are a bit lean on geography info, there ARE other countries outside the EU and even some (shock, horror ?) who manufacture medicines and medical dressings etc. China and India are 2 of them.

Will they have a bypass-the-queues-at-customs card?

There are airlines...has anyone woken up yet. Not all goods come through ports.
Goods can be airfreighted.

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And do the airlines do no checks at customs? Must remember that when I want to bring in kilos of banned substances.

Better than assuming that vulnerable people and their families should just shut up and suffer.

Anyway...he who laughs last laughs longest and the moaners on here won't be laughing.
Leavers will carry the day.

Medicines not banned substances when they are legally bought and sold. Don't confirm your ignorance.

Blaming? Who the hair-oil am I blaming ? It is people who assume that it is the EU spitefully stopping essential drugs getting to us who are blaming. We (that is to say less than a third of us) wanted this, and now we are likely to get it.

Be careful what you wish for. It may not come just as you imagined it.

Oh, but bringing in banned substances is SO much more profitable.

I'm here to look after me and mine not the whole population who have responsibility for themselves.
People on meds are not the only consideration. I matter just as much regardless of what anyone thinks.

Blimey gabriella you inhabit a different planet to most humans.

What philosophy do you adhere to?

I could have an educated guess.

Mind and don't drop that ladder as you are pulling it up.

If anyone's going to delay anything it'll be the big, greedy pharma companies. They'll do their damnedest to hold back as they're famed for holding people to ransom when a new drug comes on the market which they claim is unobtainable on account of the cost.
This country is driven by greed, Thomas Cook was an example of that.

I pointed out that legally purchased medicines could be airfreighted here from outside the EU, by the UK government, should it come to that. Nothing to do with individuals buying medical supplies and trying to get them past customs.
Try reading the text not making it up.

Leavers may well "carry the day" but surely that begs the question of what they are seeking to achieve?
My fear is that this will lead to the further erosion of the NHS as those that can afford to will go privately & pay for treatment & those that cannot will be left to the mercies of any "rationing" should shortages arise.
I doubt the older generation will fare well in all this!

And I pointed out in reply that air freight is also subject to customs control. No need to insult me.

We won you lost get over it

When the dust has settled will be the time to see who has won and who has lost. I suspect that the main winners will be those who gambled with sterling on the stock exchange and made millions - the Rees Moggs and Boris Johnsons who had the money to speculate and were aware of the coming legislation on the money they had stashed away in tax havens.

Nobody won anything.

What a stupid and childish rant " we won and you lost ". Typical though of todays mindset !

No wonder hooliganism in football is still alive with that sort of mentality.

I see nothing wrong in expecting and preparing for the worst while hoping for the best.

Sadly, you can't help but be upset by reading the complete selfishness and sense of entitlement shown by some. It sounds dysfunctional to me but it's also not the first time I have come across it. I have seen it in the wives of wealthy husbands. A taste of how others live helps some but generally they stay entitled. They are often far more to the right than their hardworking husbands.

Perhaps some of the new far-right groups were created to appeal to small-minded entitlement. Sad though.