The slippery slope - dictatorship anyone?

and many in the Conservative Party are very concerned and worried. Not sure how Nicky Morgan can stay after this.

Pity Boris Johnson. It seems that everyone is against him, except the people.
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Time will tell. Leavers will have their day. Not in Court, a la Gina Miller and John Major. But at the ballot box for sure.

Day6 you applaud Johnson for storming out and saying he will not obey the law

And so do millions and millions of mild-mannered law-abiding citizens, fed up with our Remain parliament doing all they can to frustrate the will of the majority.

If Boris makes a stand - he is one of the few making an effort to move on and to get us out of the EU - he will have Leave voters behind him.

I do not advocate breaking the law, but let's face it, parliament has now been interfered with via Tony Blair's Supreme Court. The courts and Gina Miller are deciding how things should be. That's a very nasty precedent to set too.

Let's see how this unfolds.

Boris may only be PM for a short time, but there is not one Leave voter I know who doesn't back him 100% on showing his distaste for the lousy anti-democratic MPs (and Speaker) who sit on the benches of the House of Commons.

If Westminster doesn’t sort itself out the public will.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by that....

I think we know what she means Labaik- threats of street and other violence.

But when I mentionned 'Civil War' I was told I was hysterical. I think it is a real concern now, and makes me sicl to the stomach and so so sad. The thought that we are talking here, to people who would approve this - is sickening in the extreme.

Far Right extremism being whipped up to an even more frenzy

To match the huge surge of Far Left anarchy, maybe?

Labour's open borders policy has to be the work of the socialist deranged, looking to bring down the establishment and the UK.

Let's face it -very few of us support either the far right or far left. Those factions, intolerant, vicious, often violent in nature, fascist even - are not what the majority of left or right wingers are about.

You can give examples of minority behaviour and try to smear everyone who supports the right or left with it, but you know it is not true of the moderates - who are allowed to feel anger and dismay. We also feel anger and dismay that some people act as they do.

They are a nasty minority, supported by very few, and you know it.

day6 you are totally twisting the facts.

The Supreme Court is the very body that will/should protect you and yours from a government which has flouted any law relating to the constitution or indeed any other which directly affects our rule of law.

The glory of the Court is that all are equal before the law, so any private citizen can challenge a government who they feel is flouting the constitution.

That is exactly how it should be.

Our legal system is the best in the world, with many countries trying to emulate it. It has a reputation for balanced, unbiased judgment and to attempt to trash our judges is going against your best interests.

This time they have given a judgement that you don’t like, but next your very life may depend on their good judgement.

day6 I am pleased to see that you accept that there is a middle way.

Would you feel able to accept a middle way with regard to Brexit in the hope that it enables both moderate remainers and leavers to come together to agree a way forward?

But when I mentionned 'Civil War' I was told I was hysterical. I think it is a real concern now, and makes me sicl to the stomach and so so sad

Ahhh...it was YOU who started this then Jura?

I do hope Grandad sees this.

I think you do tend to catastrophise Jura, if you don't mind me saying so. We're fairly powerless to do anything about what is playing out in Westminster, except look on.

No one I know, Remainer or Leaver, has violence in their hearts. so rest assured, you can be more upset by the huge amount of civil disobedience going on in France. I am right in thinking you live closer to France than UK based posters do?

Most of us are angry, but mild-mannered. Message boards are made up by posters sitting in their living rooms listening to classical music - as I am now. My only form of demonstration is via message boards and newspapers where I share my thoughts. Occasionally, my MP gets a 'polite' earful.

Hysteria serves no purpose.

That's OK then, no-one YOU know will do any violence. I take it you don't know the thug who trashed an MPs office then? Or the low-lives who threatened to harm an MP's young son?

Bluddy hell! I meant at the ballot box❗️
Jeez. You’re quick to cast aspersions ladies. You ought to know my views better than that by now.
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jura you are DEFINITELY not ‘talking to people ^like that^’ if you meant me!!

You do realise that members of the Supreme Court are in receipt of £175k annual stipend from the EU.

To match the huge surge of Far Left anarchy, maybe? (Thu 26-Sep-19 19:19:30)

I know you wish that was the case but "the left" in this country has moved, or as a right-winger would put it "surged" no further to the left than, for example, Finland. Since when did we see Finland as a far-left anarchy? As for anarchy itself - that would be far from my worries about any socialist party.

Where do you get your politics from Day 6? Not that I can't guess.

silly and your point?

Never wrote 'people like that'

if you are prepared to denounce and condemn Johnson's behaviour and words in the House for last 2 days, I'd be delighted. Will you?

jura you said just now The thought that we are talking here, to people who would approve this - is sickening in the extreme.

Elegran, I deplore that behaviour too. All decent people do.

It's not and never has been ok. You are choosing to use my post out of context too. I have mentioned the disgraceful behaviour of those on the far right and the far left.

They are not typical of passionately disposed and partisan people, fortunately. Most abhor their violent and yobbish behaviour.

Can we agree on that?

Sillyoldfool Thu 26-Sep-19 19:38:00 You do realise that members of the Supreme Court are in receipt of £175k annual stipend from the EU.

and ...? They are also lawyers at the top of their profession and well able to judge a case on the evidence regardless on any view they may or may not hold.

Johnson did not make a statement about why he prorogued for such a long period of time. Not a single member of his staff made a statement. The Queen's speech usually gets four to five days. What conclusion would you expect the 11 most senior judges in the country to reach?

I’ve just re- read your post silly and sorry I didn’t read it correctly the first time.

Can you provide evidence if your assertion please

That comment of yours was in the post (about me - to Labaik) where you prefaced that remark by saying I think we know what she means Labaik- threats of street and other violence.

Please apologise jura

You do realise that members of the Supreme Court are in receipt of £175k annual stipend from the EU.

I read that too Sillyoldfool

The judges are all Remainers on their lovely EU gravy train and happy to ally with Brussels.

Thank you to all, whatever your political persuasion, who have contributed to this thread and made this a very lively discussion. It is good to have our views examined and subject to reasoned debate. Better that someone has an opposing view to our own than no view at all.

I did not intend it to be a Leave v. Remain debate.

I think that the preservation of our democratic processes and standards and our respect for the law and legal judgments, transcend Brexit. In or out of the EU, but especially out of the EU, individually and collectively, we are nothing if we do not respect due Parliamentary process and the law and courts.

Urmstongran, I will apologise if you are prepared to explain your comment... 'If Westminster doesn’t sort itself out the public will.' and it doesn't mean what I guessed it meant.