The slippery slope - dictatorship anyone?

I've never been outraged by people I hold in contempt

Well, millions of people hold our 'dead' parliament in contempt, don't forget.

We are looking at the ire of Remainers here on this thread, but remember there are millions who do not share your views or opinions and find our present parliament an utter disgrace.

Ah Day6- 'The mood at grass roots level is angry. angry with parliament prolonging the Brexit mess. Leavers don't post much, but social media is full of them swatting down government detractors and highlighting the 'dead'opposition - too scared to ask the people what they want. '

yes, full of vitriol and hate, and terrible threats, we know, we can see for ourselves. But you won't condemn their threats or words - and when we say we are worried, and when we say it feels like 'civil war' has started- you will reply 'hysterical' ... When some of us use those words- it is because we have access to their threats, and language, and vitriol - and it is terrifying. As you well know.

[Hattiehelda] I wonder how calm you would feel if your best friend had been murdered by a person inspired by language and behavior being replayed by BJ or if your children had been threatened to instill fear into you or to threats to rape or behead you. To ask for BJ, his members and supporters to calm the language being used is neither vitriolic or unreasonable, even when done in an elevated voice because of the noise in the chamber. To receive the response humbug from the greatest humbug or fraud amongst our MPs.

Who killed our Parliament Day6?

Correction. I missed out
Would normally have warrant a slap across the face, not as his colleagues did, a pat on his back

Not outraged nor irate - although I'm sure you'd love Remainers to be.

Try again!

Someone suggested that we wrote to our MP. The MP for my constituency is a Conservative in favour of Boris. In the past people have written to her on various local matters and had no reply.

There are millions who don't hold your view either Day6.

All those calls to unite the country are sounding somewhat faint.

Same here Bijou. She's on maternity leave anyway (not that we'd notice her absence).

Hattiehelga, the vitriolic Labour MP brought Jo Cox into the arena, because, like Jo Cox, she has been the object of threats and verbal abuse and like many, particularly women, MPs is fearful of her own safety because of the rabble-rousing rhetoric of Johnson. I find the attacks on her posted on this thread somewhat distasteful.

I think that most decent people would consider it disrespectful to reply "humbug!" to someone who has just explained the level of threats and abuse to which they have been subjected and expressed fears for their own safety.

I am not at all sure why any thread about upholding parliamentary procedure and the law of the land, or the expectation of appropriate conduct by MPs is interpreted as being anti-Brexit. Do Leave-supporting posters not also wish to uphold these pillars of our democracy? Or does the need to leave the EU at any cost justify their demolition?

Of course Jo Cox was relevant in a response to the tirade of abusive language. This is the language of the far right as espoused by her killer. The language of rape and death threats towards anyone who dares speak out against Brexit . I’m not sure how people can defend it.

'As someone who voted Leave - and who still, in principle, would like England, at least, to leave the European Union - I want to see another referendum.

Leaving like this - with such appalling lack of preparation, such shocking disrespect for the law, Parliament and the Queen (and I write this as a republican!), and not even the slightest scrap of effort to heal the dreadful divisions between citizens - leaving like this is no victory.

I never thought I'd come to despise my own government more than the arrogant bastards who run the EU, but there we are.'

this from a young acquaintance I have argued with many times on the subject. It is good to see that even strong Brexiters can see just how wrong and despicable Johnson and ERG/Cummings are.

I am more worried about the anxiety, frustration and tension being created throughout the nation by all of the politicians who have been and continue to obstruct the outcome if the referendum, especially as they unanimously voted to invoke article 50.
Both sides of the HOC have and continue to utter vitriolic words, which only go to show that the vast majority of them are not worth of the position of MP.
If there was an election called now and not when it is politically advantageous to any party, the frustration within the country would be de-pressurised and it wouldn't be purely Brexit vs Remain as each party's manifestos would be considered in the voters choice.

Hattiehelda I agree with your post. ? Geoffrey Cox was spot on with his speech yesterday parliament is dead.

The killer of Jo Cox was not Far Right, he is a guy with learning difficulties and a known loner.

Well, I hold your view Day6! You're right, not many leavers bother to post on here now for obvious reasons!! There was much vitriol on both sides of the House but only one side is causing indignation on here! Why indeed was Jo Cox brought up at all? To perpetrate further outrage?! BJ's answer was probably tactless bearing in mind that she was a remainer, but outrageous?! I don't think so! Ordinary people in the street are very angry that MP's have deliberately dragged this saga on and on for three+ long weary years, with no discernable end in sight! In plain language we are sick and tired of the endlessness of it, now probably droning on into flaming January! Please NO! We voted to leave the EU, FGS can we not get on do just that!

Joelsnan - yes like so many in the Far Right.

Jo Cox was mentionned because the reported threats of death, rape, on women MPs were ignored. And because of the type of language used which is 'picked up' as appropriate and acceptable, be it racist, mysoginist, or whatever - by the Far Right - and led to Jo Cox's death.

If you can't see that, then I don't know. so, you are sick and tired, hey. How do you think we feel - especially as we have carefully studied the dreadful consequences that No Deal would bring to the weakest and most vulnerable in society. TBH, I am sick and tired of your being sick and tired- with never ever giving any valid argument for any benefits that Brexit with No Deal will bring, and not a single proposal for solutions. Never, not once.

I heard this on the radio just now

Rachel Johnson suggested on #WATO that her brother Boris, might be under pressure from those forces seeking to make £billions from shorting the pound, as an explanation for his demagoguery and incendiary rhetoric ?

Yeah yeah Joelsnan A guy who just happened to have a collection of far right reading material and sent money to a far right organisation.

Maybe it's true that all far right believers have mental problems.

Dunno about the Remainer majority. Seems like it's AGM time for the loonytune brigade.

jura2
It is not just women MPs that are receiving abuse and in some cases death threats, men probably receive more.but none of them are standing up, reading from a prepared text. Why do women cry equality then revert to the poor me when they want effect. What strategies are the male MPs using for them to deal with the ongoing abuse without resorting to these female tactics.
It was apparent that the MP was not responding to his current comments, but had her own agenda which appeared to be to single out BJ for humiliation whilst omitting the many other MPs from both sides whose language has been far worse.
I am no BJ fan, but this lady was out of order, especially using Jo Cox.

Joelsnan, can you clarify, can you name any male MPs whi have been threatened or abused? and how do you know how many there are, compared with women MPs?

growstuff
Aren’t most of the mass killers loners with no particular political affiliation. They tend to focus on one thing that annoys them to the point of obsession and feel the impulsion to deal with it.
As Batley and Spen has a higher than average muslim population his grievance was with JC’s perceived favour of this sector of the town to the detriment of the locals. Irrational, yes, but others within that community had similar thoughts, and, for someone with limited educational attainment and mental health issues, he obviously thought he was doing good for the locals.

Joelsnan what have mass killers got to do with it? He targeted Jo Cox and murdered her! He did not run amok killing random people.

Joelsnan Can I also ask you to give more information about which male MPs have been threatened or abused. How did you come by this information? Do you have statistics to back up your assertion or did you just make this up?