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GabriellaG54 Mon 07-Oct-19 15:23:46

You can bet your bottom dollar that the Misses Wax, Lowe, Stevenson and Misters Fry, Rylance et al are not sleeping on the streets, are still driving or being driven in cars and using their electronic gadgets. Still eating foods transported over thousands of miles, still wearing clothes made outside the UK, still not sorting their rubbish as assiduously as the average Brit, still spouting ignorant hypocritical nonsense.
They make me sick.
All of them, a***** of the first water.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 12:27:26

Yeah. Like the man who missed his father's dying breath. Which was proved to be a hoax.

Out of the woodwork they will come.

gillybob Tue 08-Oct-19 12:27:54

I find picking litter from the beach very therapeutic . You really feel that you have done some thing good . It’s also a very good opportunity for me to add to my large collection of sea-glass, so it’s win win for me and the environment smile

trisher Tue 08-Oct-19 12:34:50

Gonegirl so they are actually sleeping on the streets (I knew this really) and GG54 is once again inaccurate?
Just strikes me that when women won the vote they did many of the things being done now and much worse. Anyone want to say they were wrong and hand back their vote?

Pantglas2 Tue 08-Oct-19 12:47:05

Just heard an expert on Radio 2 suggest we all go on Grantham Institute website to see the 9 things we all should be doing and found that apart from the flying I’ve been doing most of them all my life!

The problem is, everyone expects other people to be doing the ‘right’ things, so that they can keep doing whatever they like regardless!

gillybob Tue 08-Oct-19 12:49:34

The problem is, everyone expects other people to be doing the ‘right’ things, so that they can keep doing whatever they like regardless!

Exactly pantglas and some of these XR protesters are probably the worst offenders .

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 12:49:45

Son picks up old discarded tin cans when he's on his runs. We neither of us kid ourselves that's doing much to save the environment.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 13:00:54

from Grantham Institute

Scroll down for list of things.

Iam64 Tue 08-Oct-19 13:25:10

Waves to Gonegirl and says thanks so much for bringing some positivity to the usual grumbles about anyone who very dares to protest about anything.

Anja Tue 08-Oct-19 13:27:21

I think some people just don’t get it....it being that nothing will be or has been done to halt the problem. Climate change continues to escalate.

The Kyoto Protocol in 2005 was nearly 15 years ago. That extended the 1992 UN Convention on Climate Change with a commitment to reduce greenhouse gases.

None of these were more than lip service.

Yes, someone upthread suggested the actual planet might survive. True but life, as we know it, probably will be extinct. Once we have passed a critical point it cannot be reversed.

And people are worried about a bit of disruption to their travel arrangements.

XR are not a bunch of ‘crusty’ disruptives as that revolting individual currently inhabiting No10 see fit to insult but people who genuinely care.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 13:29:53

Gone girl changes from desktop to iPad so she can ? back to iam.

Anniebach Tue 08-Oct-19 13:38:59

If it’s a peaceful demo why over 180 arrests ?

Anja Tue 08-Oct-19 13:43:50

Even Gandhi got arrested during peaceful demonstrations. If you have been on any yourself Annie (?) you will know that you get arrested for blocking th highway. Not violent. Just sitting there....or standing there on your crutches as one 82-year old did.

Good man!

trisher Tue 08-Oct-19 13:47:34

Because there is a difference between "Lawful" and "peaceful". Like the quote one protestor gave but apparently it's not Ghandi
Nicholas Klein, a trade union activist, said something similar in a 1918 speech, saying, “First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you,” according to a transcript from the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America convention. 

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 14:03:06

Agree with Anj about the revolting individual who used the word "crusties" Silly schoolboy talk.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 14:03:32

Anja

Hetty58 Tue 08-Oct-19 14:29:32

Pantglas2 Even if every individual does the 'right' things the planet dies without effective government action. Yet the issues are being conveniently ignored - still!

gillybob Tue 08-Oct-19 15:09:07

I’m sitting in the car ( yes that evil box on wheels) outside my first school pick up and have just heard on the news that the tally of arrests is past 400 now .

gillybob Tue 08-Oct-19 15:11:29

What shall we all do then? I really don’t get it ? Stop driving? Flying? Working in factories? Eating ? Stop buying new clothes? Using all plastic? nappies?

Perhaps there should be a list of what’s allowed and what’s not .

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 15:18:46

www.imperial.ac.uk/news/190946/things-about-climate-change/

Nine thints

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 15:19:15

That is not directed at any poster in particular

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 15:21:16

support Extinction Rebellion in these aims

Again posting to posters generally.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 15:22:08

Them that have eyes to read, let them read.

sunseeker Tue 08-Oct-19 15:22:27

"Yeah. Like the man who missed his father's dying breath. Which was proved to be a hoax."

This was not a hoax. A man was unable to get through to the hospital to reach his dying father due to XR protesters blocking a major road into Bristol. XR spokesperson has said that due to this they were thinking about changing the way they protest

Eloethan Tue 08-Oct-19 15:35:10

I think to label everyone involved in this action as "layabouts" is to make assumptions without having the evidence to support such a claim.

In my over 60's art class this morning several of the attendees came late because they had either been delayed by Extinction Rebellion action or because they'd been to support it. These people are mostly retired but many do voluntary work. They are not layabouts and I am sure there are many others like them. Some objected to the disruption but some did not, seeing it as a necessary inconvenience.

I do agree with their objectives but not necessarily with the way they try to raise the profile of the campaign. Whilst they may garner support, they seem also to be alienating quite a lot of people too and my view is that demonstrations and protests should seek to increase public awareness and support, not to enrage them. I thought, in particular, the attempted spraying of red paint on the Treasury entrance was not really in keeping with environmental values. Some would say such such inconvenience is as nothing to the inconvenience that will occur if nothing substantial is done to halt environmental degradation.

Perhaps if governments had done more to demonstrate their commitment to environmental matters and make significant efforts to alleviate increasing environmental dangers to public health and to the natural environment, people would not feel that drastic action is the only way to change things.

Gonegirl Tue 08-Oct-19 15:39:25

Apologies for my mistake there sunseeker.