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Morals and standards of public behaviour

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GillT57 Fri 11-Oct-19 11:49:50

Over the past few days, the world has watched, generally appalled, as Trump has withdrawn troops from Kurdish areas and basically condemned thousands of people to terror, warfare, bombing, destruction. Over the past few months, we here have watched a PM tell lies, a cabinet go back on previous assurances etc., etc., Leaving aside, if we can, what side of the Brexit argument we are on, surely I cannot be the only one frightened, disgusted, ashamed of those who have been elected to represent the people in USA and GB? Why is no-one able or prepared to call these people out, confront them with their lies or the effects of their appalling acts?

Davidhs Sat 12-Oct-19 18:54:24

Bercow finishes his stint as speaker in a few weeks and with parliament in the present mood his replacement is likely to be in the same mould, a pro Tory speaker is highly unlikely.

4allweknow Sat 12-Oct-19 22:33:05

We have so much media coverage nowadays. All have a vested interest y3o relay their own interpretation in a way to get our attention. There never has been so much information correct or not thrown at us so frequently. We have become saturated with it. I do agree that some modicum of civility is needed when those in office are addressing others, no matter who.

Amagran Sun 13-Oct-19 01:09:17

Good posts, varian, especially 15.21.

ChocoholicSue Sun 13-Oct-19 08:30:25

Agree with 4allweknow. I have experience of newspapers cherry picking a piece of news then reporting it disproportionately. Also I can't bear aggressive tv journalists. It all has the effect of my not wanting to read or listen to the news. I tend to push the red button on tv to keep up. That's enough for me.

Nonnie Sun 13-Oct-19 10:07:26

CarlyD7 Sat 12-Oct-19 11:19:18 I agree but I do wonder how we would achieve a written constitution when we have taken so long to not achieve leaving the EU.

GillT57 Sat 12-Oct-19 13:01:52 well said...
Urmston "
Bercow whilst enabling backbenchers to table obscure motions and amendments (quoting arcane laws and trolling through legalese to back up his position)" I thought that was his job? varian said "The Speaker of the House of Commons has the duty to ensure that Members of Parliament are able to hold the government to account, and John Bercow has done just that." and I agree.

starbird Sat 12-Oct-19 17:16:25 I like that.

Caro57 Sun 13-Oct-19 16:33:08

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Caro57 Sun 13-Oct-19 16:34:49

As far as I can see the main problem is the vast majority of political figures are there for their own egos rather than the good of the country they are in. I think that is more common nowadays

MaizieD Sun 13-Oct-19 16:42:42

starbird Sat 12-Oct-19 17:16:25 I like that.

I couldn't even work out what it meant, nonnie!

Nonnie Mon 14-Oct-19 09:41:36

Caro57 Sun 13-Oct-19 16:34:49 agree about the senior ones but in the case of my MP he is simply a sycophant who says what is required of his party in the hope of promotion or keeping his job. Changes his opinion as and when suits his purpose and I overheard him saying that when it all goes wrong he will go back to the Isle of Man where his money is.

varian Mon 14-Oct-19 18:06:03

Many of us have dreadful MPs like that Nonnie.

We campaign to get rid of them. Ours is a Tory and we work hard to support the LibDems who stands the best chance of defeating him. It also happens that we think that thew LibDems have the best policies.

In other constituencies you might need to support the Remain Party which has the best chance of defeating the Tories.

mcem Mon 14-Oct-19 18:29:45

Happy with my mp.
I keep up with him on They Work for You website and am happy with his voting
record and questions.
He answers emails promptly and is often out and about in the constituency.
Born and educated locally !

Nonnie Tue 15-Oct-19 10:25:13

mcem you are very fortunate. I wouldn't vote for mine whichever party he stood for, his tweets are inane.