For brexiters only please.

I think Joel has a great Nan

Got my big wooden spoon out to stir the mix a bit more... I am with brexit all the way, and even more after all the dirty backstabbing that has been going on. I do hope that these awful remainer and Party changering MP's loose their seats in the next General Election.
Brexit, Brexit, Brexit....

changering changing

aprilrose You start a thread specifically for leavers and then later in that thread you talk of "tribalism" - which is just what your OP symbolised.

Remainers, it is claimed, have "hijacked" the thread. How exactly have they done that? Can they prevent others from posting a comment?

Then there is the ridiculous comments about this thread providing a "safe space" for leavers, for whom it has taken "a lot of courage" to voice their opinions.

Posters on Gransnet are anonymous. They need not fear, as some people do, being carted off to a secret prison where goodness knows what fate awaits them. Gransnetters can post to their hearts' content without any harm coming to them - provided of course, their comments are not threatening or libelous. Even if some posters are scared of being "out on their own" in expressing an unpopular view, that does not apply in this case. There are many leavers on Gransnet (as this thread evidences) so to say that "courage~" is needed for them to post is quite ludicrous.

I guess it's linked to a martyrdom complex, which seems to be remarkably prevalent. Maybe they see themselves as heroes and heroines in an alien world - hence the images of war and chivalry.

It's posts such as the "Brexit Brexit Brexit" one which really convince me that the whole project is something cooked up by a bunch of seven year olds. For some reason, I have the image of a scene from an Enid Blyton book or maybe "Lord of the Flies".

Calling millions of decent people “sore losers” is childish and does not reflect the situation at all. It’s not. A game of snakes and ladders, it peoples’ lives and livelihoods which they have every right to fight for. The political and economic chaos caused by poorly thought out and undeliverable promises must be challenged. We have a right to say “not in my name” when spurious claims are made about “what the people want” and “what we voted for”. The cobbled together last minute unworkable proposals are not in anyone’s interests apart from a few gamblers. We are all going to be losers.

I know I have said this before but it has appeared on this thread - please don’t say “ we survived the war so we will get through this” as a justification for Brexit. . Millions didn’t survive the war including my uncle who is in a grave in the Netherlands. It’s an insult to them to compare their sacrifice with this omnishambles.

Eleoethan. You need to read correctly. I used the word "Tribalism" in response to someone else who used the word. My argument was counter tribalism, not pro it.

Anyway, as others have said ( note that, its not me), this thread has been well and truly taken off topic now. So Goodbye.

Job done then april so far as I’m concerned

I was a Brexiteer but now distance myself from them and have been disgusted by those thugs waving the flag of St George who align themselves with Leave.

It was pretty clear from the outset suzie that you wanted to destroy this thread. Yes, you did a good job. If that gives you pride, I think you need to look at yourself a little more closely.

Calm down dear.

What was not pretty clear but was crystal clear was that I thought it was completely out of order for any GNer to think she could have a thread dedicated for use by one group of members especially on a contentious subject that arouses high emotions. It’s always possible to start a thread about a contentious subject without stating it’s only for one group of people.
I started a thread last night about the decriminalisation of abortion in NI. I didn’t entitle it ‘For pro-choices only please’ . If anyone destroyed your thread april it was petulant Brexiters who didn’t get their own way in having a space of their own on a public forum

If the remain thread would have been allowed to continue and not taken down then perhaps all the controversy and disagreement in this thread may not have taken place.

However, obviously some forum member with leave views must have complained to the powers that be and it was deleted.

I actually posted on that thread, but then turned to here once a place to give my remain views was denied to me.

With respect Grandad I think you’re missing the point - threads open only to one group of posters? Ludicrous and anyway totally unworkable.

Calm down dear

That is rather patronising. I am not even angry. I am just sad. But that is what happens on forums like GN. They are no different to any other.

However, obviously some forum member with leave views must have complained to the powers that be and it was deleted

Actually it was this thread that was complained about by remainers. I think something more happened on the other thread ( for remainers) that led to it being deleted. I dont know because I did not read or contribute to it. I respected their wishes.

aprilrose, why would a remain person complain about a thread supporting remain views.

I BELIEVE, it was in this thread that someone spoke on how they would get a thread deleted, and it was removed shortly after that post.

I am just about to catch a flight back to Britain, so I cannot check that out at the moment.

My father also didn't survive the war and lies in a grave in the Netherlands,but I voted to leave the EU and would most certainly do so again. For parliamentarians to sign up for and go into a GE on the back of delivering Brexit in order, as we now know, to keep their parliamentary seats and use them to destroy Brexit, is nothing short of shocking deception. The Speaker is blatantly biased, and MP's liars and cheats. Boris is trying to deliver what the country voted for! Hardly a criminal act!

The other thread was deleted for other reasons than being for
Any Remainers to air their views exclusively, that’s how I saw it anyway.
I remember there was one years ago which was supposedly only for Labour supporters ( that went well)?
I think that if Parliament try and load the process with amendments, Johnson should pull it altogether and demand a GE.

lemongrove, Johnson will get his General Election when Parliament is sure he cannot crash Britain out of the EU with "no deal"

No one trusts him, and there are plenty off people around who have proof you should not.

Grandad1943. I hope you have a safe flight

This might be of interest.
Paintingthetownred 20 Oct 19 19. 55:20
^No such thing as a thread 'for brexiteers only'.
that is not part of any kind of discussion or democractic process. So I've asked the moderators to delete it asap. Any other approach is fascist, to be blunt^

As you can see Painting asked moderators to delete this thread.

In her own thread for remainers, she stated that her thread was a response to this one because the mods had told her that we had not broken terms and conditions. Of course I cannot varify or prove that for you. They deleted the remain thread.

As I said, it was probably because it broke T&C in someway. of course since I didnt read it, I cannot say what happened there.

Listening to someone (didn't catch her name) who was representing businesses in Northern Ireland saying that things would be just as unsure if we went into a no-deal Brexit.

Also:

* Just one in five British people would choose to leave the EU with Boris Johnson's deal as their preferred Brexit outcome.

* Cancelling Brexit altogether remains the most popular outcome among British voters.

* Just 14% would prefer to leave the EU without a deal.

www.businessinsider.com/poll-brits-prefer-scrap-brexit-than-accept-boris-johnson-deal-2019-10?r=US&IR=T

The problem is of course that having landed us in a position which is completely untenable with an impasse in N. Ireland, Scotland possibly wanting independence and economic chaos, those who voted leave are now loudly complaining that no one is respecting the vote. I suppose it's easier than admitting they were sold a pup, but it's really not the grown up way to behave. If they are so sure that leaving is the right thing well let's have another vote and those who believe so fervently in Brexit can campaign and explain the benefits to us all.