For brexiters only please.

My husband was stationed in Lisburn in 1970 which was before Common Market and bombs by Welsh Nationalists were set off before prince of Wales investiture- again pre talk of joining Europe.

Well, if you really want to be pedantic the Irish troubles started at least way back in the 17th C when Cromwell did a bit of 'pacifying' of the natives.

Oh, and my grandfather was stationed in Dublin during the Black and Tan uprisings in the early 1920s. So what?

This does not alter the fact that from the date of the UK's entry into the then EEC until 1998 there was civil war in NI (and in mainland Britain). Which had no effect on the equilibrium of the EU.

Why am I stating facts deemed pedantic and you’re not? Let’s play nicely.....and fairly - I didn’t call you and your need to do so speaks volumes.

I find it quite interesting that people still think that the Gilets Jaunes movement is a big thing. There have been a few events in Paris and Toulouse, but it is nothing like it was. I was discussing it with the (French) U3A group that I teach here in France and we were discussing how it had all gone quiet after they went off on holiday in July and August. I watch the French news and follow French sources on Twitter so I am interested to know where people on here are getting their information from?
.Very few gilets on dashboards now, I haven't seen one in ages.

You are also completely failing to get the point of my original comment to GG13, pantglas

I was quoting facts too and 'pedantic' isn't an insult..

I am interested to know where people on here are getting their information from?

I suspect they're getting them from the Brexit sites or facebook.. MamieWhy else would they think that some internal problems in a few member states means the end of the EU?

All countries have internal disruptive activities (including the U.K.) which don’t mean that country is unstable or the internal activities are somehow the result of EU membership. Were the riots in the U.K. in 2011 caused by dissatisfaction with EU membership? It’s laughable. Are Germany, Denmark, Belgium, Finland, the Netherlands falling apart with instability? I’m sure they all have internal problems but there are parts of the world we could point to that really are far poorer and much more unstable.

MsizieD I am not on Facebook or any “leaver sites” the only social media I participate in are GN and a “closed twitter account” (only open to people I allow)

As a neutral in all this mess I was confirming that both Ireland and Wales had problems before entry into the Common Market and somehow you interpreted it as an attack on the EU! The word pedantic is frequently used pejoratively when people like to generalise, along with the word nitpicking- let’s not pretend you meant otherwise.

My post was in response to one from Greta asking why the Southern European Countries are always used in comparison to UK.

There is an undercurrent of dissatisfaction in a lot of EU Countries, I never implied it would lead to the “break up of the EU” . Just pointing out that the EU Countries are not all so perfect, as those who voted to remain make out.

Still completely missing the point, Pantglas

A bit late now, but an excellent debate on the pros and cons of another GE:
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcparliament
Very impassioned speeches from Jeremy Corbyn, Jo Swinson, the leader of the SNP and the leader of the DUP.
Nothing from Wales yet.
Plus comments and questions from Tory traditionalists such as John Redwood and Ken Clarke.
It does look as if we leave the EU it will eventually lead to the brakeup of the UK.
I'm still sitting on the fence (uncomfortably).

Sadly, the remainders seem to be winning as they’ve managed to delay the leave date again. Whatever happened to democracy? We voted leave, so let us leave

The vote needed a 2 thirds majority and they didn't get it!
So no GE in Dec.

I’ll await your explanation then, or apology for jumping to conclusions and unjustified disparagement, whichever comes first.....

Sorry - I think I put my previous posts on the wrong thread.
But it is to do with Brexit.
Just trying to bring people down to earth, what is really happening.

There could still be a December election Fennel but not on Johnson's terms.

I am sure there is discontent from some groups in every country; it would be amazing if there wasn't. In France people tend to have a demonstration. In fact if a group of us are out gossiping in the street in our village, people will join us and say, "c'est une manif?" ?

^ Just pointing out that the EU Countries are not all so perfect, as those who voted to remain make out.^

When has anyone said that, GG13? And if you want to score points over Remainers why put it on the Leavers' thread?

GG13 I don't think any Remainers ahve said that the other EU countries are perfect. We don't say that the EU is perfect. We do say that to be part of a large group, rather than standing on our own, is better for the UK.

And if you want to score points over Remainers why put it on the Leavers' thread?

Surely on THIS thread (for Leavers) that’s half the fun?

And you all shouldn’t be peeping!

Nothing in life is perfect. I would worry about anyone who though otherwise. Why should anyone expect government or any part of it to be. The difference is that remainders want it to make life better for as many as possible while leave campaigners only seem to want it to improve for the already very wealthy.

Admit that and I might believe leave voters know what they are talking about.

Grandad1943
I've just done a search which took less than a minute and stopped counting at 15 articles on bombings in Sweden 2019.

leave campaigners only seem to want it to improve for the already very wealthy

I must be your exception to prove the rule GGmk3

If you saw my bank balance you would laugh - yet I voted Leave!

So how do you think leaving will help those in your position or worse UG?

Who claims all EU countries are perfect? I could say leavers believe all EU countries are on the brink of collapse.