For Remainers Only

I don’t make anything of it Growstuff as polls are often skewed and it has no relevance at all to Brexit.
What I do know however, is that certain remainer GNers have used your words as as stick to beat other Gners with for the last three years.
No doubt they feel very smug in doing so.I hope they will continue feeling smug when we actually leave the EU as it will be a comfort to them.

Good post, paintingthetownred. I am so glad you have joined this thread. I marched on Saturday, as did many other Gnetters who believe as you do. You are so right to include the cultural benefits which accrue from staying in the EU as well as the political, economic etc. I cannot believe we are standing on the edge of this deeply retrograde separation.

Twitter reporting that Kuenssberg is in No 10 doing a “hastily arranged” interview.

Guesses?

Call for a GE?
Withdrawal of WA?
Johnson’s resignation??
Just to let us know he’s really really cross?

Nanny won't pick up his toys for him?

It has just been stated by the Tory Leader of the House of Commons that the government will not be bringing forward any legislation on the Brexit withdrawal agreement or any bill to enact a General Election in the coming week.

So, Johnson pledge to get the withdrawal Bill through Parliment and the United Kingdom out of Europe by the 31st of October will now most definitely not be fulfilled, killed of by his own hand.

I think I will go and dig myself a ditch. ?

Well in our family 5 AC and partners voted leave 4 have degrees, 9 have A levels or equivalent, 1 speaks 3 languages fluently, 1 speaks 2 fluently and 2 can get by in 2 languages other than English.

Eldest has lived and worked worldwide.

One started their schooling in a Country in Europe that at the time was not a member of the EU.

I have lived and worked in Europe, and can get by in 2 European languages other than English.

We all voted leave, as did Mr. Gravy.

lemongrove You're being completely disingenuous. I do not believe for one moment that every single poll and survey is wrong. Of course there is a margin of error and it depends how the polls were conducted, but there have been enough of them to show without any shadow of a doubt that the general picture is correct.

I'm actually quite relieved that so many of the posters on GN can't be described as grumpy and reactionary old git stereotypes.

Think Johnson is doing everything he can to avoid having to meet up with Sarah Wollaston [is it 3 meetingswith her he's cancelled/avoided now?]. It's called 'doing a Priti Pattel I believe. And the Conservatives are saying that Johnsons Brexit bill has been passed, not that it's just made it to a second reading.

Interesting GrannyGravy that you must have experienced some of the benefits of the EU.

By the way, I've been out all afternoon and came onto this thread to catch up on what's been happening, but have had to plough my way through a lot of pro Brexit whinging [sp] posts....

Johnson calling for an election, “to give MPs more time for the bill”

Johnson should be told to sod off.

He should not be allowed to dictate to parliament.

Labiak
Can’t you post something other than winging that the thread content didn’t meet with your expectations.

growstuff No I saw prices virtually double overnight, local youngsters put out of work due to “free movement of labour”, and double the amount of bureaucracy.

Thanks Grandad. This seems a very convoluted decision from Johnson.

On my phone "Boris Johnson has said he will give MPs more time to debate the Brexit deal, but only if they agree to a 12 December general election"

It sounds a bit like hid g the country to ransom!

Why on earth doesn’t Johnson just get on with the bill?

He’s knows that the opposition is willing to work with him on the time table.

Instead of that we have this nonsense of trying for a GE

Anyone trust Johnson?.

Blimey Kuenssberg is a bit useless isn’t she?

Where was that GrannyGravy? It didn't happen anywhere I've lived.

growstuff Spain

As GG13 pointed out: the increase in prices. It was very noticeable in Spain/Portugal/ and Greece. I found Greece to be the highest of those 3.

Joelsnan; it's 'my' [sort of] thread and I'll whinge if I want to. Go and whinge on your own thread....….

Petra we have close links to the Greek side of Cyprus and the locals cannot get work in the tourist hotel’s as the Eastern European’s work for less. Free movement hasn’t benefited Greece

Aha! I thought you meant in the UK.

Spain, Portugal and Greece aren't going to leave the EU as a result of Brexit.

Greece should never have been allowed to join the EU and the Eurozone anyway. It had to fiddle its book to be allowed to join and, quite frankly, should have sorted out its tax system first. I'm afraid the chickens came home to roost.

Who owns the hotels and restaurants which the tourists use and presumably make a profit?

Cyprus should introduce and enforce a minimum wage.

What was the timescale for those events please GrannyGravy13?

Petra could the price increases have been linked to the state of the £ at the time of your visit?

Not criticism btw. Just trying to understand when you noticed the price rises and the unemployment figures in Spain.

As to the levels of bureaucracy in Spain, it's been an aggravation for many years. It gets Spaniards down too, but it's been that way for a very long time. They make a joke of it.