Can anyone apart from the elite, say what they want from Brexit

You are certainly right maddyone when you say that in the past leavers have been asked again and again their reasons for leaving! Those same leavers have replied and given their reasons, some quite forcibly, again and again! Always to be shouted down and ridiculed! Most have left the thread, and those who are left are simply not prepared to go over and over what has been posted again and again! no doubt to be ridiculed yet again! No one has to justify to anyone else how they voted either in a referendum or a GE!

Jabberwok and maddyone, the question asked in the title of the thread was not 'why did you vote to leave?' This question relates to the situation in 2016.

The question asked was 'what do you want from Brexit?' This question relates to the situation which obtains now.

maddyone Tue 29-Oct-19 10:34:35 I don't think anyone has suggested that you 'have to', I certainly haven't and can't understand why you are reluctant because I am always happy to answer appropriate questions on GN threads, whether or not I have done so before. I think it is polite to do so. I have taken no 'umbrage' why have you? I can understand why you might be reluctant to engage with someone who has been unpleasant but I haven't, I have simply asked a question because I would like to know if I should change my mind. If you can tell me how we will be better off outside the EU I will listen and take note, my mind it open.

Jabberwok Tue 29-Oct-19 11:00:27 as I haven't done any of that perhaps you would be kind enough to tell me? In a PM if you don't wish to go public. Thanks

Nonnie, thank you for your pleasant and polite response. I’m actually not accusing you, I’m pretty certain actually that your responses have always been polite. I’m thinking of about a few other posters who do have a tendency to become confrontational. I’m sorry if I came across as confrontational, I didn’t mean to. As I actually voted remain, I can’t really discuss how I voted, except to say I was very torn, and in the end I plumped for remain purely for the economic argument. However, I have noted that the Brexit threads do become very confrontational, and as I have changed how I would now vote, I don’t like to see, what appear to me, to be very demanding questions about why voters voted leave.
In essence I believe everyone has the right to vote privately and should never have to justify their vote.

GracesGranMK2, I am sorry we do not share the same sense of humour my repeating the remark of Michael Winner, a flip comment at the end of a long post and was not meant to be taken as an instruction to anyone. I thought the way I worded it made it clear.

I am sorry you were so affronted by it.

Thank you to those who saw my remark in context.

Corporation tax helps to fund schools, hospitals, NHS prescription meds, social housing and all the other infrastructures we have come to appreciate for our welfare.

Same person asking the same questions in (of course) a polite manner expecting a reply on the basis that that same questioner always answers questions so why not answer theirs after all, the questioner thinks it's the polite thing to do.
What a cheek and how laughable to think that others should do as they do because it's 'polite'.
Not proffering a suitable answer (which we all know will be verbally shredded) makes the person asked, rude.
I never read such tripe.

Do you ever 're-read your answers Gabriella?

Actually...no.
I either have issues which are are abbreviated into an acronym, anxiety about my spelling or an unwillingness to spend my time in the manner you suggest.
Take your pick. ????

I would say that a huge majority of leavers daren't give an honest answer to this question because it would be racist to say what they really voted leave for.

GabriellaG54 Tue 29-Oct-19 15:48:54 then you don't read your own posts! Never mind Gabby it gives us all a good laugh.

so you think race played a big part in the refendum Gonegirl?

sorry typo.

I'm not spelling it out grapefruitpip!

Sorry, it was a genuine question. I am interested. I think ethnicity and colour and fear were crucial.

Oh, for goodness sake!

I think to many people, jobs and council flats going to the dreaded/feared/disliked "foreigners" was crucial.

Not to all, but to many.

grapefruitpip I do not think race played a big part in the referendum, but I think immigration did. As I commented on another thread. Many people, especially in the poorer economic regions, saw membership of the EU as being an influx of uncontrollably numbers of immigrants who were taking their jobs and forcing their wages down.

That this perception was wrong is irrelevant.

Do you have any evidence of council flats going to EU workers, Gonegirl? I'm not trying to point score, just curious as council flats are like hen's teeth these days...

I'm not sure you can separate "immigration" and "race" in this context. No one bats an eyelid if a Dutch person comes into the country and gets a job.

I DON'T THINK THAT!!!!!

I was answering grapefruitpip's question.

Actually it was the OP I was answering.

Gonegirl your second sentence contradicts your first one. A Dutch person taking a job in the UK is an immigrant. How does a Dutch person taking a job differ from someone from an Eastern European country taking a job in the UK? Both are EU citizens.

I don't understand the " for goodness sake"?