Tom Watson

I can't help but think of the men who were persecuted for years and had their lives ruined by the paedophile enquiry - and he drove that forward throughout, insisting that the police continued to investigate. Was he right to do so, from honest motives? I can't feel either surprised or regretful that he has resigned; after the enquiry and the amount of criticism for his actions it seemed only a matter of time before he would have to stand down.

He wasn’t the first person to trust the police

He was guilty of gross misjudgement imo.

Undoubtedly with the best of intention.

I don't know. Please could you explain why.

My understanding is that the JLM won't support Labour in Finchley and Golders Green, because Luciana Berger is standing as a LibDem.

I don't fully understand the political views of the JLM, but I understand that they are at odds with Corbyn.

The above question was to Anniebach about the JLM not supporting Corbyn in the election.

Jewish LABOUR Movement .

They have been affiliated to the Labour Party since 1920

This surely explains their political views ?

Funny, isn't it, that all those whom he insisted were investigated by the police for sexual assault just happened to be his political opponents either past or present. He is evil personified, and I really hope that he gets a dose of his own medicine, and is hunted to his deathbed.

GrannyA did you mean hunted or haunted ? If the former you are encouraging criminal behaviour. I think you should clarify and correct if necceary.

SuzieW, upon your instruction I clarify: hunted in the same way that Leon Brittan was.

Another little derail,.

If that mural is going to raise its head again, these are the people it portrayed:

Rothschild [jewish], Rockefeller [a baptist], Morgan [an episcopalian], Carnegie [a presbyterian], Warburg [jewish], as well Aleister Crowley [Plymouth Brethren],

2 Jews, 4 non-Jews, so it's anti what, precisely?

(Absolutely puzzled as to what Crowley was doing in there, though...)

maizie at the time I researched the artists biography, his explanation of the work and looked at his other work and the context in which they were made and installed.

I came to the conclusion, that it was not anti-Semitic.

However in the end it seemed to play into the hands of the wrong people, and for this I apologised for my original decision, but I have always felt uncomfortable.

But I don’t think this should be opened again as it is nothing to do with current issues.

Although I realise that those obsessed with Corbyn will think differently. Unfortunately

Time to re-close that particular door.

Tom Watson is my local mp. He was last in the borough for the European elections. He has no interest in this area, just likes the rewards of his office. We are thrilled he has resigned, now we can have a labour candidate who will care about their ward.

The Jewish Labour Movement was revived in 2015. It has strong ties to the Israeli Embassy. There are plenty of Jews who support Corbyn, including Jewish Voice for Labour. The mainstream media (the BBC has sadly become an enclave of a privately educated elite, often ex-Murdoch or ex-Spectator, and the Guardian has a Blairite agenda) have amplified the antisemitic 'crisis'. Antisemitism, shamefully, exists within the Labour Party, but only 0.06 members have been found guilty of it, and they have been suspended or expelled. For opponents of Corbyn, the very fact of denying that there is an 'antisemitism crisis' in Labour, as I have just done here, itself constitutes antisemitism.

I agree, Wwmk2, but people keep bringing it up and it annoys me that the facts are never mentioned...

That is interesting paperbackbutterfly.

I've never had a lot of time for Tom Watson. That's not necessarily a criticism - I just feel neutral about him, although he went down in my estimation over the alleged paedophile ring allegations.

I could never really understand what his role as Deputy Leader actually meant, apart from sitting next to Corbyn in the HoC.

I wonder if his resignation is headline news and has attracted so much comment because there's nothing to report from Parliament. I really hate this mudslinging stage before elections.

Maizie and WW2 That "mural episode" puzzled me too. I saw it and assumed it was intended to anti-capitalist. If Corbyn were really autocratic, you would have thought he would have wanted it to be removed. Instead, he questioned its removal because he saw the removal as an attack on free speech.

Talk about muddled thinking!

Tom Watson is at odds with Corbyn ( I sympathise with Watson there) and made a terrible mistake in believing in Carl Beech ( the police did too, remember.) However the only reason Watson went so aggressively after Leon Britton and others were because they were Conservative figures and he was happy to believe evil of them.He has never apologised properly for the damage and hurt caused to many families.
Am glad to see him go, even if he was a Labour moderate.

^Then why has the Jewish Labour Movement said they will not
support Corbyn st this general election.^

I can only guess Annie. The people who know are the Jewish Labour Movement and history once it is written.

This surely explains their political views?

Not really if they are now not supporting Labour.

Funny, isn't it, that all those whom he insisted were investigated by the police for sexual assault just happened to be his political opponents either past or present. He is evil personified, and I really hope that he gets a dose of his own medicine, and is hunted to his deathbed.

I that hate speech? It seems full of hate for another human being to me. Not sure if it is or not.

Castafiore thanks for the additional facts in your post of today 10:53:03.

No it isn’t ‘hate speech’ it’s the genuine opinion of a poster who can see what Watson has done to families by his belief in Beech and the way he followed it up so gleefully and assiduously.

What about Ian Austin ?

Please......an election is about policies not personalities (or rather it should be)
If you trust the Tories, who have promoted austerity and cuts to precious local services, and who have done diddly squat to ease the crisis in social care for NINE years, then carry on voting for them. If you want a different, kinder, greener, more inclusive and trustworthy politics, then look at some of the other parties.
Let's stop this cult of personality.