Tom Watson

Are you sure it is true gg13?

At the moment I distrust what the Tories say entirely and always try to verify it by another source.

The only other source I have is Sky.

I think this is why I find it so ironic hat Tom Watson failed to check his facts before his very public and influential pronouncements

Enlarged the tweet but still too fuzzy (might be me, of course) ? ?

WWM2 .....you saying that is ironic, given that you rush to believe fake facts when it suits you.

kitty as I understand it, bring suspended from the House ( as KV is) does not automatically exclude you as a candidate, only suspension from the party does that.,

Grannygravy
I can only assume that James Cleverly has a stunt double ?

I've just seen Ian Austin interviewed on BBC. He seemed quite distraught at the decision he had made.

Vaz hasn’t been deselected by his local party, they don’t seem to have a problem with him.

As I’ve said lemon if the facts are fake, then call them out, giving the correct information that is the most sensible thing to do rather than continually accusing but n ever following up with what you consider the actually truth.

That is all I’m doing with regards to the Tories.

The trouble is that they are lying so much that it seems that it is dominating the discourse, but it is right that lies are called out.

Tom Watson.
The Labour moderates will miss him.
However Nearly 70% of his constituents voted out and he went against them. He was toast at this election anyway!

Ian Austin on Sky News half an hour ago.
Seems very upset about the way Labour has become.

Facts ?

That wall mural was anti semetic, you Whitewave strongly
denied it was because Corbyn had protested about it being
removed.

Then Corbyn said it was anti semetic, he hadn’t looked closely at it when he defended it.

You never said you too were mistaken

Blimey annie you must have missed that then, or is it selective memory?

You did say you were mistaken ? I must have missed that, thank you for clearing it up.

West Bromwich East Leave vote: 68.2% MP: Tom Watson (Labour) He voted to trigger Article 50....But ever since he has been voting to stop Brexit.

Next to resign before being sacked by the public in the General Election ?,

my money`s on the MP for Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford Leave vote: 70.0% MP: Yvette Cooper (Labour) She voted for Article 50, saying: "Nobody said at any time 'you know what, I am not going to respect the result afterwards - thats the kind of thing Donald Trump says."....But ever since she has been voting to stop Brexit too!

"hatchet faced hag"?!!!

Nice people on social media.

(that was from GrannyGravy's screenshots.)

Annie, and that's a worry in itself!

"A spokeswoman for Ofcom said: 'We are assessing these against our broadcasting rules before deciding whether or not to investigate"

I reckon it was just a mix-up. Nothing deliberate on either side.

Tom Watson has worked to undermine the current leadership - overwhelmingly elected and re-elected by the membership - just as he worked to undermine Ed Miliband (who stood up for the rights of Palestinians while fully acknowledging the right of Israel to exist, just like Corbyn). Watson is massively supported by pro-Israel donors. This is entirely legal - he can take money from whoever he wants, and he declares it. But you can draw your own conclusions about some of his position-taking.

^That wall mural was anti semetic, you Whitewave strongly
denied it was because Corbyn had protested about it being
removed.^

I expect to be screamed at but I still don't think the mural was anti-semitic. It did play on anti-semitic tropes, which were in exceedingly bad taste, but it attacked the wealthy and those using wealth to run the world, not jews.

Anniebach Corbyn didn't defend the wall. A thumbnail image of it appeared on his Facebook timeline in 2012, with a message from the artist saying that it was going to be removed. The artist didn't mention antisemitism, and Corbyn simply asked why it was going to be removed, and mentioned the political censorship that Diego Rivera had been subject to. The most salient thing about the mural (especially when you only see a tiny reproduction) is the image of bankers playing monopoly - a common metaphor after the crash. If you look closely (and if you are alerted to the fact), you can see that of the six bankers, who are supposed to be based on real-life people, one is definitely an antisemitic caricature, and another one less obviously but equally obnoxiously so. When Luciana Berger drew attention in 2018 to Corbyn's response to the Facebook post, he acknowledged that he should have looked more closely, and agreed that it was antisemitic. But it is a complete distortion of the facts to claim that he 'defended' an antisemitic caricature. It's clear from his actual response that he assumed the censorship was because of the anti-capitalist message. He has a long record of support for Jewish causes, while opposing some of the policies of the current, and some previous, Israeli governments.

He says he will continue to campaign for the party, and the decision was 'personal not political' Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn thanked Mr Watson for his service, adding: "This is not the end of our work together."

What a load of rubbish, “the far left”☹️ You are either reading the Daily Mail rag or other biased media, especially good old BBC. Funny how we rarely hear Tory voters talking of “the hard right”, or “far right”. I dislike Tom Watson, but not for being “hard left”.

Then why has the Jewish Labour Movement said they will not
support Corbyn st this general election .

Two wrongs never ever make a right. But the Conservatives have point blank refused to do what they had promised they would do- and to have a genuine report on Islamophobia in the Party. At least the Labour party it truly looking at the issues and doing everything it can to solve the issues.

Which is hugely complicated by the vile and inhuman treatment of Palestinians in Gaza and other territories - as any criticism is mis-interpreted as antisemitism.