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Not voting- 1 of many reasons

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Armynanny Tue 26-Nov-19 20:06:41

Electoral promises are meaningless because politicians are able to lie to gain the favour of the electorate, and then do exactly what they want once they have it. Then there is no accountability or recourse, other than waiting another 5 years or so to vote them out and replace them with someone else who will follow the established template and do the exact same thing.

M0nica Wed 27-Nov-19 09:59:57

Always believed they were all the same. Jeremy has not disappointed. grin

Is that what you meant Grany? I certainly would not disagree.

Mollygo Wed 27-Nov-19 10:04:07

I will always vote, though this time I really don’t know what would be best. A labour rep called at our house yesterday and, in answer to my question, “what will Labour do about Foodbanks?” He said, “We’ll get rid of them!” I’m sure he didn’t mean that exactly but all I could think of was the folk who will arrive to collect food and find there isn’t any.

spabbygirl Wed 27-Nov-19 10:04:48

I look around me at the state of the NHS, schools, police and see the evidence of 9 years Tory & Lib Dem rule & try to think what another 5 years would look like.

I'm voting Labour to save our public services, I don't care if they put Mickey Mouse in charge, I just want an end to all these cuts. Tory might say they do too, but the evidence is otherwise.

Urmstongran Wed 27-Nov-19 10:16:28

Austerity (silly though it was) is officially over. For all parties. I think Boris is being sensible. He’s not splashing the cash - Brexit might need targeting of funds in the short term.

Paperbackwriter Wed 27-Nov-19 10:17:30

Choosing not to vote is of course an option open to you. But after not voting, you absolutely can't ever complain about anything the government then does because you have effectively agreed to settle for what everyone else wanted.

POBCOB Wed 27-Nov-19 10:19:27

Think of the suffragettes even if you spoil your paper at least you went.

Mollygo Wed 27-Nov-19 10:24:00

Sorry pressed post instead of preview. I don’t believe any of their promises. The Tories have shown how bad things can be under them over the last few years but last time Labour was in was disastrous for us as a family. The Lib-dems don’t want me because I don’t match up with their acceptance of men-identifying-as-women in women’s hospital wards, mental health facilities and women’s refuge centres etc. So what do I do? I really don’t know, but I will vote.

NotANana Wed 27-Nov-19 10:28:17

What BlueBelle said!

I'm voting for the least worst in my constituency. But (to coin a phrase) I would rather be dead in a ditch than ever vote Conservative.

Please, you have a vote - please use it. There are many in other countries who are denied the vote. Remember when the vote was extended in South Africa to include ALL South Africans? I cried when I saw the news reports of people walking many miles and queuing up in order to be able to cast their vote - many of these people were elderly and had never been enfranchised before. Please don't take your vote for granted and fail to use it.

grannyscott Wed 27-Nov-19 10:29:03

I am concerned, after listening to radio 4 prog. That younger voters all appear to be voting tactically. What a disgraceful trend. How can you vote to put in someone who’s politics you disagree with just to stop someone else winning. This is a strange kind of democracy.

FreeSpirit1 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:31:19

I'll be voting Labour - nothing to do with how my parents voted. Although retired, on a moderate income, I feel that taxes need to rise if we want a fairer society for all.
I think Jerrmy Corbin has demonstated, over his political career, that he has a social consience, more than be said for his chief opponent. I read the papers online, and am shocked at the levels the right wing press will stoop to discredit JC.

FreeSpirit1 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:37:55

Sorry - I've just realised that it should be Corbyn - not as spelled in the above post.

Greciangirl Wed 27-Nov-19 10:41:04

I repeat what I said on a previous post.

My grandmother was a suffragette, so not to vote would be dishonourable to her name,

I think we ought to try and change the course of present politics, and that can only be done by voting.

freyja Wed 27-Nov-19 10:43:30

I find that this election has caused a lot of anguish of who to vote for and it is tempting not to vote at all and let these politicians get on with it. This voting system of first past the post is not democratic unlike the EU elections of proportional representation where every vote matters. I always vote mainly because the suffragettes (including my grandmother) gave me that privilege, but their battle not only gave us women the right to choose who to vote for but also not to vote of we so wish. So if you don't vote that is also your choice.
The whole point of this election, as my daughter pointed out, is to make your vote count. So if you want Brexit or not then you know what to do but if you believe there are more important issues at stake like the environment, the young , NHS etc, you also know what to do. The most important thing when voting is to consider all the facts and how the polices will effect you, your family, community, country and planet in the long term. Do not even consider the leading personalities involved, because they are just people who can be replaced at anytime as we saw with DC and TM. The important thing to remember is that their policies will last longer and whether you vote or not will still have an effect everyone's future as we saw in EU Referendum. So in conclusion it is probably better to have a stake in that future by voting for the party that will at least try and make it happen rather then opting out.

Shazmo24 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:44:28

Go & vote but spoil your ballot paper...that's what I did in the local council elections...I didnt want to do it but it was the only way for me

jenni123 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:46:32

If you don't vote then you have no rights to complain if things are not liked by you. Even if your party is not elected you will have done your best. I don't know how anyone would decide not to vote.

Zsarina Wed 27-Nov-19 10:47:09

The only problem there is with this December vote is who not to vote for.... Remember it’s better with the devil you know than the devil you don’t even if you wanted God so who is the best of a bad bunch but not To Vote. means you don’t really get to have an opinion

notanan2 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:51:00

If you don't vote then you have no rights to complain if things are not liked by you.

Thats just not the way it works.

Your MP is accountable to the whole constituency equally. Whether they voted for him/her, someone else, or none of the above.

notanan2 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:52:32

I am concerned, after listening to radio 4 prog. That younger voters all appear to be voting tactically. What a disgraceful trend. How can you vote to put in someone who’s politics you disagree with just to stop someone else winning. This is a strange kind of democracy.

Theyre not old enough to remember the times when tactical voting has back fired!

Scottiebear Wed 27-Nov-19 10:55:55

I can understand people who dont want to vote. I consider myself pretty savvy and well informed re current politics. But I despair at the main political parties and currently dont know how i am going to vote. I find my trust in politicians has gone and I take everything they say with a pinch of salt. I will vote, because i think it is important to do so. But it's going to be a case of the best of a bad bunch.

maryhoffman37 Wed 27-Nov-19 10:56:49

Women suffered and died to get you the vote! I would never not vote.

MissAdventure Wed 27-Nov-19 10:58:35

Its like choosing whether to bludgeoned or strangled to death.

TrendyNannie6 Wed 27-Nov-19 11:12:35

Would always vote

ananimous Wed 27-Nov-19 11:14:33

Pankhurst etc would facepalm at our current quisling parliament. It's more like having to choose between a bowl of sick and a plate of excrement. At least a spoilt ballot paper will be counted, whilst not adding any creedence to the utter bhitsags currently enjoying allowances and expenses.

notanan2 Wed 27-Nov-19 11:15:18

But it's going to be a case of the best of a bad bunch.

This time I cant identify the "lesser evil".

All are taking their own routes to hell in a hand basket!

vickya Wed 27-Nov-19 11:16:35

More didn't vote last time than the total of all the votes for allparties. Many new voters have registered. although still many have not, but if we allvote for who we think might be best, not tactically, maybe a decent alternative will get in.