Racist Tories

I've never really understood why a garment which is all-encompassing and worn mainly in hot countries should be made of black material.
Black absorbs heat, white reflects it. I thought that was why some people in the Middle East sensibly wear white robes.

Well, grapefruitpip has said that she is Jewish (on another thread) so may know if she cares to enlighten us.

Ok. I think wearing a wig over your hair is odd too.

Shoot me now.

I guess my lasagne which we are about to eat is not kosher?

The top Siri suggestion thingy that came up when I googled a query about Orthodox Jews and two fridges was this. It's rather fun. Do have a look.

blogs.timesofisrael.com/lifestyle-tips-for-orthodox-jews/#comments-674658

I could enlighten you. I am not from an orthodox background, so I am not well versed in kashrut.

I know several women, through the work I have now retired from who wore burkhas.
They chose to wear them, there was no coersion, no grooming. These were highly educated, wonderful women who made a choice.

When I had known them for a few years, and had developed a close and friendly relationship, I did ask them why they wore them (i had seen them all without burkhas on numerous occasions in private).
They felt it was liberating. Simple as that.
They never had to worry about how they looked, just how they acted.
No concerns about how their hair looked, just what they had to say.

These women were the most loving, giving, highly educated and wonderful people. To her them being denigrated as nothing more than 'letter boxes' disgusts me.

Kosher is cruel.

Gg ''We do still have free speech in this country you know.'' - well there are limits, legally, re inciting hatred, etc.

But we are talking about the massive hypocrisy that 'free speech' when talking about some religious communities, is totally unacceptable- whereas the same free speech, talking about other religious communities, if fair and dandy.

Well, our lasagne combines meat and dairy.

I am far from anti-Semitic. In fact no one could be less anti-Semitic than me. But kosher is cruel.

I know that jura. I would never condone any hate speech. But joking about a burqua? Come on!

Oh yes I agree, Christians have always been fair game, jura!
Even on here

Callistemon. I've always found it odd that men in the middle East wear cool, white garments whereas it's the women who are covered from head to toe in heat absorbing black.

And yet- any thread mocking the very strange attire of some North London communities would be seen as antisemite. For me, it is all wrong and unfair- what I find amazingly hypocrite it that it is ok to mock the attire related to some sections of one religion, but not of another. Either it is wrong for all- or not. And a reminder that such specific 'attire' is more cultural and specific to some sections of said religious communities- and not to others in the 'same' religion.

Either it is fair game, or it is not- for all.

this is unpleasant I have lived with Muslims and it is usually the women who do or don’t decide to wear their chosen garments I have lived with a family where some chose to wear and some chose not too but like in any society I m sure there are some controlling men who tell their wives what to wear (and that’s not confined to any particularly ethnicity ) wouldn’t it be nice if we could accept people no matter their differences

Would you throw these deriding comments at Catholic nuns who at my school wore ankle length black robes with white wimples and black head coverings with no hair allowed to be shown Is that so different would you call an obscene name to them, no I thought not but Muslims are easy game aren’t they

Johnson has made many racist remarks but we should have more understanding and thought than that very silly buffer who likes to be seen as a ‘funny endearing man’

BlueBelle wish there was a 'like' button.

an obscene name

WTF!!!

I would definitely make jokes about nuns if I thought of any.

Please explain about the obscene name Bluebell.

Dave Allen anyone?

merlotgran it was DH who mentioned it many years ago having travelled there - I never thought of it.
"Black absorbs heat" apparently.

merlotgran ??

And yet- any thread mocking the very strange attire of some North London communities would be seen as antisemite.

North London again.

I'm sure my DD wore some strange attire when she lived there (still does) even though she has moved from there.

We used to call the nuns 'penguins' when I was at school.