Con merchants

You're right that everything seems unfair to someone. That's basically what politics is all about. It's the job of government to share out resources as fairly as possible, but it's impossible for everybody to be happy because everybody thinks they have a strong case for a bigger slice of the pie.

Many married omen worked but were put on to the Married Women's rate of National Insurance so did not receive a pension in their own right.

GracesGran I've stated on another thread that I don't think that paying out a fixed amount to WASPI women is fair - but that really is just my opinion. (Fri 29-Nov-19 22:20:38)

growstuff I doubt it will be a fixed amount when they finally work it out. It is more likely to be in relation to what has been lost.

I am so fed up with the fake news and repeating it without checking should be some sort of crime but it isn't it's just idiots repeating rubbish. It's not a game. Our future depends on the truth not the lies the Con men spread.

New song by Madness attacks the Tory elite – and it should be a chart-topper

voxpoliticalonline.com/2019/11/30/new-song-by-madness-attacks-the-tory-elite-and-it-should-be-a-chart-topper/

@Rachael_Swindon

And there you have it. They think they can lie and you’ll just swallow it up. Don’t let them get away with it. It’s your NHS.

Private firms given £9.2 billion of the NHS budget despite Hancock promise #GE2019
Record 2018 total comes after health secretary pledged no privatisation on his watch

amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/21/private-firms-nhs-budget-matt-hancock-promise?__twitter_impression=true

Re the NHS sacred cow of 'free at the point of use' , a Swedish friend then living here told me that in Sweden, everybody pays a small amount for the 'board' element of hospital stays, ditto for prescriptions and visits to both GP and A&E.

Even her dad, who was over 90, had to pay for prescriptions. There is however, she said, an annual cap for those who need a lot.
Especially given that Sweden is popularly supposed to be a socialist Utopia, I was very surprised to say the least.

Incidentally the Swedish friend , who lived here for many years and worked for the NHS, was often upset and angry at the waste and inefficiency she witnessed.

I don't know about anybody else, but I've known someone who would stockpile masses and masses of free prescription items, only to have them all periodically thrown away. The waste used to enrage me, and he was someone who could easily have afforded to pay a few £ each time - and he was notoriously tight. If he'd had to pay even £2 or £3 per item I'm sure he'd never have taken so many that he didn't need.

So we are to set our standards by one discontented worker in the NHS who happened to say the things you wanted to hear.

Probably not Witzend.

That is not to say it cannot be improved but I would not start with those prepared to dismantle it for advice.

Witzend You really do have no idea how big a chunk of income £2 or £3 per prescription item would be for some people. And, no, you don't know about anybody else. I don't stockpile medicines. I need them.

The NHS has had two major reorganisations since 2011. What do you suggest changing now?

GracesGran The suggestion is a fixed amount per week "lost", with no accounting for need. It is my firm opinion that the 1995 change was fair, but that a handful of women should be compensated for the acceleration of changes, which were introduced in 2011. How dare you call me an idiot? I'm aware of the issues more than most and would be one of the women being offered the maximum of just over £31k.

Oh, I know growstuff but this is an election. Do you really think it will all go according to what's been said? It may do. In which case I agree with you; it's not ideal.

Did I call you an idiot? Where? I don't think of your posts as idiotic so I am surprised and I apologise if I did.

Ah - just seen it. That wasn't aimed at you in the way you read it; was an agreement with part of one of your posts. I should have quoted it. This bit.

I'm open to being persuaded that my opinion is wrong, but not when people produce so-called facts which aren't true.

I'm afraid hyperboles, exagerrations and downright lies all seem to be the only weapons used in argument, often to support deep-seated prejudices.

@marcuschown
Our NHS had been for sale for a long time now. The 2012 Heath & Social Care Act laid it open. It's why private companies like Virgin have sued the NHS for not getting contracts. Currently, about 26% of money you pay through tax for the NHS goes to private firms (@CHPIthinktank)

It seems there has been a sudden proliferation of posts on the social media from Tory supporters saying Jeremy Corbyn has been lying and the Tories aren’t selling the NHS.

If that’s true, why are the Tories selling 309 separate parts of the NHS as I type these words?

See for yourself. Just visit www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Search and type “NHS” in the search box.

When I did so, it produced 309 results.

So don’t let some idiotic Tory troll lie to you about the NHS.