Danger man Trump strikes again

BJ’s response up to now has been very restrained. In fact yesterday some posters on Gransnet were calling for him to return home immediately if not before and to react! He has now returned home and issued a restrained response.

Well he can't say too much he wants a trade deal.

Get Brexit Done’ a dumbed down soundbite for the dumb voter

Now then ybnb - play nice! I don’t think I’m dumb. I just have a different opinion to you about leaving the EU.
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Exactly trisher, he can't condemn Trump as he/we are desperate for a Deal, any deal. If he wants the UK to be involved, use our bases in Cyprus or anywhere else, we will have no choice.

Been watching French, German and Swiss news today - and the world is VERY VERY concerned- and says the same- Johnson and the UK will have to play Trumps's 'game and rules'.

So far as I've seen today, Johnson has joined the other European leaders in asking for restraint from both sides. I'm no Johnson fan but I'm relieved he's done this. He's also of course, trying to keep Trump on side in his comments about not grieving for the General.
Here's hoping Johnson uses his Big Brain to work diplomatically in this dangerous game, started by the dangerous Potus.

It’s very scary, who would have thought that man could have such power but the Americans seem to like him.

Sparkling, some Americans seem to like him. Many others loathe and fear him.

I think Trump is half loved, half hated at home. Bit like the Brexit divide here was.

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Trump does not pick targets his generals do and they advise him to take action - which he did...the armed forces protect America...without them you would have 9/11 strikes every week from these religious lunatics from the Middle East.

You never let me down jura!
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Aim to please ;)

well he can't say too much he wants a trade deal

trisher
He could have said 'Congratulations, Don, you've done a grand job there! High five! Well done' if he was really concerned about the trade deal.

But he didn't thank goodness.

Callistemon he's not stupid, that would have upset some people. Goodness knows what he says to DT on the quiet.

Urmstongran - I wish you were correct in believing that Trump is advised by his generals. I fear you aren't but that he directed the shooting of the Iranian General and that his own advisor were unable to hold him back.

No Iam64 I read somewhere yesterday that Trump’s generals, acting on intel gave him 4 options. He chose one.
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Do you have clear evidence?

Oh yes, I've read it somewhere yesterday, so it must be true.

OMG.

Oh jura FGS can’t we even have a pleasant discussion without links & evidence any more? Why so tetchy? It’s late. You’ll have to take my word for it - I read a lot and can’t recall the article.

Today somebody shared a photo of long lines of troops shipping out from an airport in the nearest city- I wondered if the scene was similar all over the country ..

At the very least it was a contested move, even within the Pentagon and, as usual, premature and done with very little input - none at all from Congress. From foreignpolicy.com (rated slightly right and high for factual reporting):

In the hours leading up to the U.S. drone strike that killed Qassem Suleimani this past week, U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper kept President Donald Trump’s decision to target the commander of Iran’s powerful Quds Force closely held, cutting out some senior Pentagon leaders who are typically consulted on decisions of such magnitude.

Senior officials at the Office of the Secretary of Defense and the Joint Chiefs of Staff would ordinarily be part of the discussion, or at least briefed ahead of time, on such a momentous decision—one that the administrations of both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama considered and rejected. But in this case, many senior leaders found out after the fact, current and former officials familiar with the discussions told Foreign Policy.

"The usual approval process, the decision-making process, did not occur,” said one defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive issues.

Even among the small group of officials who were in the loop, there was dissent about whether killing Suleimani was a wise decision, said a former senior administration official with knowledge of the discussions. “The DoD was not all in agreement that killing the second most popular person in Iran at an international airport in Iraq was a good idea,” the former official said.

The papers this morning all report disagreement between Trump and his Generals. There seems to be no support, other than from the idiot Pompeo, for his threat to target cultural sites. The Generals and other politicians realise this would be a war crime.
Netanyahu has said Israel wasn't a party to the decision to kill the Iranian General and disapproves of the action.

I think Israel's main worry is that if it does come to war they will be the first target for Iran. Who they believe does possess nuclear weapons.

Urmstongran ''Oh jura FGS can’t we even have a pleasant discussion without links & evidence any more? Why so tetchy? It’s late. You’ll have to take my word for it - I read a lot and can’t recall the article.''

I am sorry- this was not intended as a personal attack. But NO, teetering on the edge of WW3, I will not 'take you word for it because you've read it somewhere'. 'Tetchy' - really? Like many I am so worried for the children of the world, Iran first. If you can't understand that - how can we possibly have a 'pleasant discussion'?

We’re not teetering on the edge of WW3 now are we jura? We all know there are likely to be repercussions from Iran, but there’s no need for hysteria. When I first heard about the death of Soleimani I said I was afraid of what might happen next. It seems that the response will be Iranian terrorism from what I’ve seen/read. I’m still afraid that a ME war will break out as well.
I said in an earlier post that the Iranians I have worked with and that I know are all perfectly ordinary and pleasant people. I still hold that view, but having seen the newsreels of people in Iran attending the funeral of Soleimani, of them burning the American flag, of them chanting ‘Death to America’ I’m afraid I am finding my opinions changing. I don’t know what will happen next, none of us do, we are all speculating. I’m afraid of what will happen, but it won’t be WW3.

We aren't teetering on the brink of WWIII despite the fact that people all around the globe are at odds with each other-

An all out nuclear war would be possible but not likely- Crazy as our leaders seem they want to live to enjoy the wealth they've accumulated at our cost, at our loss-

However, I wouldn't rule out nuclear strikes altogether- Specifically in the US- And the middle east- North Korea a long shot but also possible- But again specifically between NK and the US-

The US government has consistently stressed that it cannot guarantee prevention of a nuclear strike state side and directs us to this site: www.ready.gov/nuclear-explosion

The US government struggles with natural disasters when they occur, especially now that they are increasing and frequent, impacting commuties, disrupting business, distribution and agriculture-

As usual, it would be up to the people to "be prepared-" And help each other out-