Well done Lawrence Fox!

Hell bells, ‘it was reported a conservative candidate said etc .in 1964 . 56 years ago , and reported ? In the newspapers?

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trisher, I’m absolutely with you on this but we are a minority. We are also wasting energy be attempting to list or detail racism as demonstrated by fox or newspapers, the DM the obvious example.

I think Laurence Fox came across as a bullying thug.

And his new record is a dreadful dirge. And he can't sing.

I disagree, not racist. How does ‘crime and poverty’ equal
racism . Should her family tree not be mentioned ? Kate , Diana’s family tree were . Is ‘exotic DNA ‘ a definition of black ?

Harry couldn’t/ wouldn’t admit the truth , she is admired by
some because she refused to accept what went with the job of
being a working royal , republicans are hopeful she will
destroy the royal family.

She is criticised by some for being self centred and going on the celebrity route.

You are reading racism into everything trisher. Why is it racist to tell the story of her family going from rags to riches? If they were a white family who had gone from abject poverty to the RF the story would be just as interesting.
'Exotic' DNA is not racist, if anything it's a compliment. You immediately see racism.
What happens on Twitter, and one person who may or may not be wearing a racist brooch hardly backs up your argument. How do you know that she wasn't wearing the brooch in recognition of MM's heritage? You can't know for sure.
This is all about what you and others like you read into everything. You are just looking for racism so you can stir the pot.

Chestnut really! A Blackamoor brooch as a recognition of her heritage??? Why not go the wholehog and turn up with a slave collar or one of those disgusting implements that were used to restrain and prevent slaves from moving or speaking?
Do you know I half thought GNers were just badly informed and not really racist but quite frankly every post makes me think they really are.
As I said anyone could have "exotic DNA" but if you are white it won't be mentioned. That's why it's racist.
Crime and poverty are of course the natural state of people of colour That' why it's racist.
Oh I give up. LF is simply a product of his class and upbringing. Quite what excuse those on GN have for their racism I don't know. Age or ignorance I suppose.

No crime and poverty in white British or white Americans?

I will make a comment and say I was glad Prince Harry got engaged and married to a mixed raced woman at last some different genes in the monarchy.

I was happy on the announcement of the baby and hoped things went well.
On the next level I was curious and waited for the birth of the baby and will not tell a lie I wanted to see the shade of skin colour , hair colour etc, of their new bundle of joy.
I know Prince Harry probably wanted protection for his son and all photos showed the baby very well covered.
The first real close up I saw was when they went to meet that bishop (cannot remember his name) and the baby was nothing more than I can describe but completely beautiful.
It is quite sad they felt they wanted to leave the U.K and I know a lot has been said and every story that can be dug out of the woodwork is coming out when we know that Harry is one of the most loved Royals but everyone complaining about Meghan is driving him further and further away.
I will miss seeing Archie growing up in the U.K. it is a loss to us.

By the way saying I was curious as to the new babies colour is not being racist as it was obvious he is not fully British blood and I for one could not give a flying flamingo.

He’s gorgeous isn’t he 3nanny6, but I was surprised that we weren’t allowed to see him till he went to Africa. Babies change after all, he won’t look the same in a few more months.
I think it sad that so many jump on the racism bandwagon. Meghan’s father has recently said that Meghan never suffered racism whilst growing up, and that the USA is far more racist than the UK in his opinion. Judging by my visits to the USA I’d say that is probably true.

As I said trisher you look for racism in everything and accuse everyone of racism if they don't agree with your interpretations. You just want to keep stirring the pot and creating division even where there is none.
When you come up with statements like Crime and poverty are of course the natural state of people of colour then I wonder who is the racist here? I would never make such a comment.

And while we're at it trisher your complaint about people using the term 'race card' is absolute nonsense. You know perfectly well what they mean by that, and it has nothing to do with the original meaning. The meaning of many words have changed over time. Would you complain if someone used the word 'gay' when they mean homosexual?

I think that is the first time I saw him when he was in Africa and he was looking beautiful Maddyone. He has probably changed so much already and there have been no further photos of him.
I have not visited the U.S.A. but it would not surprise me that it is racist there, I have also watched those videos that Meghans father has shown and she looks happy in all of them.
Whatever happened to their relationship only they really know .
It seems that Archie may grow up far from the public eye and the photos of him will be few and far between if any.
Rather sad in some ways.

Chestnut never heard of sarcasm. There was no other reason for attributing MM's background as being from Crompton than to downgrafe and ridicule her. It is racist to assume that there are no black people living in affluent areas of the USA. But that was exactly what MSM intended to do. As for Meghan's father never experiencing racism he's white. And I think many children don't tell their parents things they experience growing up. But this is about MSM in this country ane the racism exhibited which some said wasn't here at all andnow they are debating if it was racism or not. I beleive earlier in the thread someone said if you felt something was racist and you. were being targeted because of your ethnic origins it was racism. Well she did, she was and it is.

According to your last sentences trisher he (LF) did, he was and it is.

Sorry Pantglas2 did someone malign LF because he was white? I thought we were discussing his comments on racism about MM which he insisted were not racism. Personally I can't stand him because he's an over entitled prat with little talent but good connections, couldn't care less what colour or race he is.

Yup trisher he was maligned by Rachel Boyle because he was white.....

Many white people who are married to black people suffer racism Trisher, particularly in the past. Meghan’s mother apparently said she (a clearly black lady) was often assumed to be Meghan’s nanny (not as in grandmother, but as paid help) when she was pushing her apparently white baby in her pram. They lived till Meghan was two years old in a wealthy area of LA, because at that time Meghan’s parents were still married. Meghan’s father was able to provide a comfortable life for his wife and child.

That indeed did happen Pantglass, I watched it too. It was disgraceful.

Ah I see one incident by one woman is made of prime importance whilst the MSM racism is dismissed. I shouldn't be surprised.

trisher thread title - Lawrence Fox , reason ? He said
‘Not racist, she said ‘you are a white man ‘, this was racist ,
if he had said ‘you are a black woman ‘ then racist, but he didn’t say that.

Your dislike of him is simply because he comes from a middle class family and went to a public school.

I think MM was subject to racism by the press because when you consider both Kate and Meghan's treatment in newspapers Kate came off more favourably with the similar things they did reported on. And that's a reason why Harry complained about racism and had every reason to complain.

Anyway I am not bothered by the Royals, just wish we didn't have a monarchy

Grany: when you consider both Kate and Meghan's treatment in newspapers Kate came off more favourably with the similar things they did reported on
MM received a warm welcome from the press when she married Harry. There were no negative comments then. It was only later on when she started behaving like an extravagant diva that they started reporting in a negative way. At that time Kate was doing all the right things and was consequently being reported on favourably.
Of course people like trisher will interpret this as racism as they always do. As I've said before, it's all down to her behaviour, not her race.

Well I think too much fuss I kicked up about Meghan She is a fiesty independent woman earning her own living before she married Harry.

Kate knows where her bread is buttered so plays her part keeping in with the Royals.

Anyway just bought another book about Royals Title: Sacking the Monarch - Why Britain must become a republic 2010 10 years old now but still relevant

tickingbird, twist it as you will.

When LF made his vile remarks he was reported in the media as twisting the words of Martin Luther King on his Twitter feed. So I looked. I don't HAVE a Twitter account. But what I saw...

Profanity after profanity. Huge disrespect to women and yes, racism.

And Anniebach and Chestnut, The Daily Heil posted 'straight outta Compton' about Meghan. 2nd of November, 2016. Do your own research.