INDEPENDENCE DAY!

To be fair, we all thought that Hugh Grant was finished, didn't we, but he did seem to redeem himself by sending himself up in Paddington Bear.

Perhaps we need to search for the self-deprecating British sense of humour which seems to have been lost by the wayside in recent years.

‘Excellent article & DM’ it is well written by John Humphrys!

Like the OP, Lyndiloo, I am glad that the democratic will of the people has been carried out, and we have left the EU.

In my opinion, we will thrive and prosper as an independent country, securing our own borders and making our own rules.

We have always been a pioneering nation, inventive and creative, and some of this entrepreneurial enterprise has been suffocated by bloated EU bureaucracy.

Why do Brexit post become so aggressive?

Urmstongran
I've just finished reading that article. He completely sums it up. I know a lot of remainers don't read the daily mail but it's worth a read. It might help you to understand why/how we voted as we did because obviously we haven't been able to on GN.

Why do Brexit post become so aggressive?

Because there are a good many posters who are very upset about leaving the EU and who know that the stuff spouted by the likes of John Humphries and parroted by Leavers on this forum is just airy fairy meaningless nonsense. Nothing in the least bit factual or relevant to the 21st century.

When asked to explain how, for example, the EU has suffocated entrepreneurial enterprise, no-one seems able to answer with any concrete examples. This is not enough to convince Remainers that there is any benefit to leaving the EU with all the associated distress to people whose lives and livelihoods have been adversely affected by Brexit, who are uspset about the UK's loss of status, and the prospect of years of recovery from a divorce that was not of their choosing.

Don't expect any diminution of 'aggression' now that you Leavers, erroneously, think that Brexit is 'done'.

I think this is a better explanation than John Humphrey’s article journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2053168018773964

It’s the link with populism that horrifies and scares me.

Grandad1943: Well, it would seem there is not going to be any great celebration in Parliament Square tomorrow night as it all seems to have fallen rather flat. Link to this "lacklustre party" can be found here:-....
Sorry to disappoint you Grandad1943 but it looked like a pretty lively party to me! Wish I could have been there. No party poopers in this picture.

Happy to read Humphries' article if someone will provide a link

Why do Brexit post become so aggressive?

Because two halves of the country fundamentally disagree and those who wanted to leave the EU are childish and nasty?

Here's the article by John Humphrys

How can anyone take John Humphries as an "unbiased" reporter? He is as biased as they come and I am glad the BBC got rid of the bully.

That photo looks largely old and white. Any photos showing the great diversity of modern day UK?

Thank you for alerting me to John Humphrys 'article in the Daily Mail.
Clearly a member of the Common Sense Party.
Now that Sarah Sands has left 'Today' perhaps he will be invited back occasionally.

And that in summary is my issue with Brexit. Old, white, flag-wavers.

A Britain with a large populist movement is not one I can be proud of.

Nezumi65 That photo looks largely old and white. Any photos showing the great diversity of modern day UK?
As requested.

Some photos are just too far away to see people clearly.

One token black person.

Any more?

He criticises others for offering generalised characterisations having just described "patronising patricians trying to subvert the democratic process because they knew better than us poorly educated plebs what was good for us."

Do I believe there are such people? Yes but not all the remain voters fit that category by any means. Just the same as there are, among the "less educated" some with a chip on their shoulder that can never be irradicated. So what? How about looking at the facts instead of characterising whole swaths of people. It does look as if Humphries, as an individual, wears that characterisation perfectly, however.

I’m resisting the urge to post vox pop snippets from last night because a) I loathe vox pop and b) I think there is something really distasteful about displaying someone’s ignorance to the whole of the UK (yes BBC I am talking to you), but the crowd yesterday was not diverse & was not representative of a UK I could be proud of.

Nezumi65 - we cannot dictate who comes to the party and who doesn't. These are the people who bothered to turn out and celebrate, sorry if they are not the right colour for you. Calling them 'old white flag wavers' is both ageist and racist! ?

Chestnut - do you ever reflect on WHY people of colour may not be flocking to Brexit parties?

Old white flag wavers was descriptive. Look at the picture you posted. It as full of old white people waving flags.

Common Sense Party.

Isn't it strange when someone comes out with this epithet it is always given to those whose views agree with the writer's views?

These are the people who are so lacking in commonsense themselves that they don't even see how rude and antagonistic they are being - or they just have no manners per se. You can bet your bottom dollar they will criticise others for what they think are bad manners though. It's almost as if the small majority and the wheeler-dealing that have taken us out of the EU makes them believe they now have a right not only to judge others - they have always done that - but to rule others thoughts and feelings.

I have a feeling some, should they live long enough, will come down to earth with a bump. They are no more special than anyone else.

These are the people who bothered to turn out and celebrate,

I think you have just given a prime example of what I have described above.

Nezumi, sadly I don't think the word "reflect" is in Chestnut's vocabulary. Just going on being rude and nasty about those who don't share her views certainly seems to be though.

Nothing has changed. This was started as a nasty thread and is still a nasty thread.

LadyGracie
I find it sad there are those who see the end of the world is nigh on leaving the EU. My local news channel were interviewing people of various ages their views on leaving My thoughts were 'spare us' ' on hearing one young man, voice his concerns to the presenter 'where will our fruit and vegetables come from ?'