Happy Day After Independance Day!

What about this poster from a block of Norwich flats?
www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/feb/01/police-called-in-after-poster-tells-residents-of-flats-to-speak-english?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19XZWVrZW5kLTIwMDIwMg%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUK
Brexit seems to have legitimised racism for some people. I am glad the police are dealing with it

The OP is just stirring

But you do of course?

No aprilrose I’ve got absolutely no idea either! But I’m not a parrot who will just repeat what I’ve heard ad infinitum without understanding what it actually means.

Why doesn't HQ just shut dowm this destructive and unpleasant nonsense?

Nandalot. Absolutely disgusting, filthy, racist behaviour - it’s stomach turning.

If that is a hate crime (there are strict definitions as to what is chargeable as a crime and what can just be noted) then the author of that note needs to be charged.

Calendargirl, yes I saw your post and should have referenced it because that is what made me take another look.

Surely no-one has the right to take that photo and link it to the groups suggested, especiallg Nazi groups.

Vegansrock if there where so many Nazi saluting thugs at Parliament Square why haven't you posted pictures. Also the songs with obscenities at the Farage Brexit rally what exactly were they singing, nothing more than the obscenities some Remainers have expressed in the last few years on GN I expect. I personally never swear.

As said before - click on the link to the Independent article on page 1 of this thread if you want to see pictures from the night. Plus read the words of the song which I wont repeat here.

I don't think there have been any similar obscenities directed to anyone on here. If there had been they would be removed.

If you want to defend such obscenities just by whataboutery it says quite a lot.

Oh god don’t ask people to post the obscenities - I saw loads yesterday & have tried not to post them (I think they are exploitive). I did post two links (1) because I thought it was sort of funny in a what the? way (people in a pub swearing at the EU) & (2) a clip from Irish TV where the yobs had approached the cameras rather than the other way round.

But people stamping on EU flags, people shouting about the EU reich, people shouting at an Italian journalist, people pouring beer on an EU flag. And so on and so forth. It was shameful behaviour.

Sorry shouting about the third reich, although they probably equated that with the EU

It was horrible, ignorant stuff.

It's true to say that any far right activists would definitely have voted leave. But more than half the voters in the country voted leave and they all had their own reasons. Remainers are very keen to jump on these images and crow about them representing the typical leave voter, ignorant and foul mouthed. It makes them feel better about losing, superior, more intelligent and more civilised.

Personally I’m quietly happy today. Somehow it seems like Boxing Day IYKWIM? Still Christmas but without the pressure. Just a nice day to enjoy. I’m off out now to spend time with the grandchildren.

Enjoy the day everyone. However you voted. x

I don’t think anyone is crowing about anything. I know leavers who are completely horrified by what appears to have been unleashed. They didn’t like the EU - they like the populist rising even less.

That is the most worrying thing.

Although I see today that Johnson is going to say he wants freedom to relax employment rights & food and environmental standards. And yesterday it looks as if Gibraltar is going to cause problems. Irish peace is fragile.

I have genuine concern about all the above. That’s not crowing.

I also think it is really important that everyone calls out racism - before it becomes normal.

^ But more than half the voters in the country voted leave^

No they didn't. Electorate is about 45 million. 17.4 million is nowhere near 'more than half'.

And also, fewer than half the voters in the 2019 GE voted for 'Get Brexit Done'. 53% voted against it.

But the thing is leavers who claim to be sensible and not part of the thug element condone and excuse such behaviour- its dismissed as acceptable celebrating or the same as remain demos( which it isn't) as if that makes it OK
Those who can be bothered to look
www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-nigel-farage-parliament-square-a9312436.html

I actually think these discussions should be banned on gransnet ( and mumsnet ) nothing good every comes out of them and I do wonder why HQ allow them.

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No they didn't. Electorate is about 45 million. 17.4 million is nowhere near 'more than half'.

But even fewer than that voted to remain. You cannot claim that those who did not vote at all were remain minded. It means at best they were not bothered.

You’ve been quite happy to post on here and stir the pot by calling remainers “bitter and twisted” Kadinsky. What’s making you feel uncomfortable about it now? The links to the racist, extreme right wing behaviour exhibited by factions within the minority leavers perhaps?

Kandinsky’s post was the one I reported (only one on the whole thread). It has been removed.

vegansrock: But the thing is leavers who claim to be sensible and not part of the thug element condone and excuse such behaviour
The only thing that is condoned is the celebration of Brexit. Who has excused the behaviour of these thugs?

Ah sorry different (Brexit) thread.