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.....climbing in the Himalayas

Monica I think Prince Harry has wanted to cut and run for years, he just needed a wife who could stand by him, share his thinking and help facilitate his escape.
If Harry had wanted to 'cut and run' for years then why didn't he do so with the love of his life Chelsy Davy? She didn't want the Royal life, so there was his chance! Clearly what he really wanted was to remain in the Royal family so he let her go....

Some people don’t just keep going with new borns Not that’s frankly just rubbish and unkind. PND and post natal psychosis are not uncommon and need diagnosis and treatment. It never ceases to amaze me how horrible some posts are on GN re the suffering of others and their arrogant ‘we just got on with it approach’.I think in my mother’s generation and ours, great emotional damage was done to many mothers and their families because they didn’t get the emotional support they needed.

Point taken, Monica, but it was a long time ago. I get a bit fed up when these privileged people moan about their lot all the time. There are plenty much worse off than them. Sorry if I gave offence, though.

Well he has certainly put all his eggs in one basket now. He has given up the status and life he has known, distanced himself from his family, staff and friends and changed countries. It is a lot to contend with and I hope she is worth it.

Nottoold ... very gracious reply but I think you have a valid point there.

The thing is I think a lot of you hope it all collapses - you don’t want it to work out for them, it shines through on so many posts on so many threads

The fifteen staff were employed in the Buckingham Palace Office, but the couple apparently no longer require 'a working base and dedicated staff in the UK.' The staff were told last month; some will be reabsorbed into the Royal Household.
The Daily Telegraph said: 'It comes after the Duke and Duchess declined to take advice from within the household, surrounded instead by multiple external advisers, famous and well-connected friends, and private agencies.'

I sincerely hope neither of them ever returns to Britain, but I am sorry for their family, who will be taking on the workload of the increasingly contemptible Prince Harry.

Namsnanny - thank you.

I'm not at all surprised that they have given up their office at Buckingham Palace and let their staff go.
What was the point?
I don't think they will come back to the UK very much at all in the future and I for one am not bothered if they do or not.

I wonder if they will attend Beatrice's wedding?

That's if they're invited.

Sadly I totally agree with you easybee. Prior to his marriage PH seemed a contented happy, very popular man, a great asset to the RF. Since his marriage any/all his problems suddenly seem to have resurrected and overwhelmed him. Surely the support of a loving wife would have been just what a slightly highly strung person would need, as in George V1th and the Queen mother? For Harry it seems to have had the completely opposite effect! So sad!

suziewoozie PND and post natal psychosis are not uncommon and need diagnosis and treatment.

While PND may be described as "not uncommon" as it includes the "baby blues" but post natal psychosis is rare affecting 1 or 2 in 1000 so should never be lumped in.

Announcements from the Palace always come out in dribs and drabs. Charles and Diana separated with "no plans to divorce" Charles and Camilla had "no plans to marry" There are no plans for Camilla to be Queen when Charles ascends the throne. Any announcements about M&H will likely follow the same path.

Hopefully M&H are enjoying some lovely private family time
and feeling much less stressed.

I suffered post natal psychosis after the birth of our second
daughter, I was treated in a psychiatric unit with other women suffering the same, no way can any woman just get on
with it.

Privilege and money are no protection against mental illness and its effects.

I hope they never return.

Anniebach my parents' neighbour suffered many years ago. It was a terrible time for the woman and her entire family, and incredibly sad to witness, even at a distance. As you rightly say it needs expert treatment in specialist units. Thankfully it is rare, although having suffered once the chances of a repeat illness with subsequent pregnancies is increased.

Exactly Monica, all the privilege and money in the world is no protection against poor mental health or illness.

'The thing is I think a lot of you hope it all collapses - you don’t want it to work out for them, it shines through on so many posts on so many threads'
…..did a bit of soul searching after reading this but I can honestly say that I just have a horrible gut feeling that this is going to end in divorce. Which saddens me greatly as I'm very fond of the two princes.

janipat there’s no need to be so. picky. I’m fully aware of the statistics and didn’t lump them together but gave them as two examples of in mental illnesses that mothers can suffer to refute an unkind post about just getting on with it. At least I don’t keep attacking MM and PD and cruelly speculating about them as so many GNers do

Well Labsik you do only speak for yourself. There is glee in so many of the MM threads. And why on Earth was this one even started - just looking for trouble.

Well if they don't come back, at least we won't have to pay for their security. Win, win.

Some criticise Megan and Harry, suzie critcises posters

Yes annie and richly deserved it is. And I didn’t realise we weren’t allowed to criticise each other - I get my fair share.

suziewoozie janipat there’s no need to be so. picky. I’m fully aware of the statistics and didn’t lump them together

You did lump them together listing both conditions before the words "are not uncommon". I'm sure anniebach could enlighten you to how the psychosis is not like baby blues which normally just passes quickly or common PND which needs support but not specialist units. You'll spend a long fruitless time looking for any post of mine which speculates about them unkindly.

I wish posters would use the quotes ^ ^ when they are quoting what another poster has said. Otherwise it's too easy to assume that it's their opinions.