The language of Corona

And yet they still rate his chances of being re-elected. What does it take for US voters to see through this charlatan?

He is akin to something I would scrape off my shoe.

The most disgusting language comes, quite predictable from Trump who keeps referring to the "Chinese virus"

On a very flippant note do you realise you can sing " Corvid 19 " to the tune of " Come On Eileen " Dixie's midnight rummer's song.

The language used by officials describing the spiralling scenarios risks dehumanising us, and makes us feel we no longer matter

Kathryn Hearn

Bugger self isolating, I am just “staying in” and when I have had enough I will take myself off to the woods, along with my “social distancing” equipment - my bagpipes !!

Is this the Imperial College link you meant?

www.imperial.ac.uk/news/196234/covid19-imperial-researchers-model-likely-impact/

Even if 60% immunity were to be achieved, I can't see that it would slow down the spread that much. It would still mean that almost half the people one would meet would not be immune and could possibly be a carrier. Vigilance is going to be needed for a long time, until a vaccine is available.

Yes well that’s the mathematical model they are working on. It remains to be seen if it works. We are all in uncharted territory . They are closely watching what happens in China & Italy. I have family members working in public health (not medics)

That's my understanding too pollyperkins. The trouble is that it almost certainly takes more than 60% of a population to be immune, as is the case with measles.

Read the Imperial college link from the scientists. All explained there Including why the policy changed. No idea how to post the link, sorry

If that was the aim they would have us out and about ! They are trying to PROTECT the vulnerable. I’m no fan of the tories and particularly of this government but they do seem to be listening to the scientists on this occasion!

Old people quietly dying in their homes... untested and untreated. What a bonus for the government. It will relieve the Nhs now and in the future and nursing home pay outs. And of course all the pensions that will be saved.

Well if there is a second wave it will inform our government what to do (or not do)!

China may find that they have a second wave of it as most of the population has not come into contact with the virus.
It would then spread worldwide again.
Let's hope they may have produced a vaccine by then.

No that’s not it. It’s like when say 90% of the population is vaccinated against measles , that protects the few that can’t have the vaccine as there are fewer to catch it from.
Survival of the fittest would be a free for all - and let the old and sick die. They are not doing that but isolating the vulnerable to protect them. By the time we are ‘let out’ hopefully most of the population will have had it and be immune. I think that’s the theory anyway.

But surely 'herd immunity' just equals survival of the fittest?

It is also being queried what happens when the population that has been in total lock down return to ' normal life ' if there ' could possibly ' be another outbreak as no ' Herd Immunity ' has been developed in the population. Damned if they do damned if they don't.

The only answer is a vaccine and only a fool does not understand that governments/countries are not going all out to find one.

That's what I don't understand. Why haven't the governments of the world looked to China? They seem to have it under control, they have closed their emergency hospitals. Yet we have only just started tinkering with the idea of lockdown. Even then I was only after social media uproar.

I doubt very much whether things are returning to "normal". The Chinese economy has taken an enormous hit. The repercussions will be around for years. China was prepared to take draconian measures to isolate the infection. I wonder whether people in the UK are prepared for it.

There is light at the end of the tunnel. Just read a thread on another site posted by someone who has been self isolating (on lockdown) in China since January. Things are now slowly returning to normal as there are few new cases and corona virus isolation hospitals are closing. This has cheered me up!

I think it's the village stocks, for you, POGS ?

Self-isolate=duvet day.
Lockdown=go home from work, eat dinner in front of tv.
Herd immunity=being coughed/sneezed at/on at the Aldi checkout (like what always happens, forever, never mind Coronavirus).

I don’t think “herd immunity” is sinister, but it is maybe condescending. Although watching the queue of elephants I saw pushing trolleys around Aldi, I sort of get it. God knows why these people are stockpiling pasta and rice. They should do a big swerve around the carbs. Good time to start the Adkins diet, perhaps? I invented the word “tanorexic” by the way. Yes I am very proud. Yes, as someone pointed out on here, I am very smug. Proud. Smug. That’s me.

William Hanage needs to get his facts right as over 70s and vulnerable people are being told to stay at home and not risk exposing themselves to the virus.
He needs to concentrate on what is happening in America and let our specialists advise us here and not try to make political hay out of this crisis situation.