Senior RMT official suspended for saying he’d throw a party if Boris Johnson died

Grandad Would those rules not apply to the Mayor of Heanor, who made remarks in poor taste regarding BJ’s illness? I’m pretty sure she’s been sacked from the solicitors she worked for.

POGS to be honest have had some sickening comments made against me personally but that's GN for you
Well it takes one to know one- re your post about me of 15.44.03.!
And yes Tories are Vermin. Tories have consistently run down our NHS. You know the NHS that we all turn out to clap for on Thursday evening. And they are still trying to cover up and pretend PPE has nothing to do with it. Matt Hancock-hiding the real figures of NHS deaths skwawkbox.org/2020/04/11/video-here-are-the-names-of-28-nhs-staff-who-died-mr-hancock-not-19-how-dare-you-claim-the-lack-of-ppe-did-not-contribute/
How's that for the gift that keeps on giving!!

I’ve not read the entire thread sine early afternoon but - grandad I understand the beurocratic and legal issues are complex. If Headley had an ounce if integrity or humility or common decency, he’d resign and apologise

tickingbird those rules (legislation) apply to all who are charged with disciplinary offences by their employers.

I am not aware of the case you Quote, therefore I would not care to comment on the matter.

Here's hoping am64 but I fear that will not be the case.

And if someone was to ask me would I trade Johnson for one of those NHS staff lives then I'm afraid I would.
I expect that to shock all the namby pamby shock -horror mealy mouthed sycophants posting on here.
But quite frankly 28 NHS staff deaths concerns me more than one man's outpourings on facebook.

I would not choose one life over another

And people would do the same with Corbyn/Starmer trisher nothing namby-pamby about it really is there?

Not if they are honest about it Pantglas2 unfortunately some just adopt a 'holier than thou' attitude and pretend otherwise. 'Ooh shock horror we would never say anything nasty!!!!'

Well, I couldn't abide Corbyn and his cronies, but I would certainly never describe them as vermin, still less the wider Labour movement, and I would never ever wish them or anyone else dead.

Grandad1943 Can I ask why you have little optimism that Headley will be sacked by the RMT? Is this because the trade unions are reluctant to admit that their members have transgressed common decency or another reason? Genuine question.

Well that answered you again Ilovecheese.

How can we expect to have a decent discussion about anything of relevance when one poster is unable to express themselves any more articulately than to call a whole strata of society vermin? I don't often go on the news and politics threads but I can't ever recall having seen anyone refer to the Labour party, Lib Dems or any other political party as vermin.

I would not choose one life over another
Goodness, no.
Although I would give mine for my child or grandchild.

I'd be upset if Corbyn was ill or lost his life to this even though I don't like his politics.
Just as I am for all those lives lost.

Chewbacca, in regard to your post @17:36 today, Headley made the offending statement(s) on his own Facebook page which has no direct connection with the RMT union.

Therefore it would seem that the only disciplinary allegation that can be brought against Headley would be one of "bringing the RMT union into disrepute. However, Headley would have had to made reference to the RMT and his role within it on that page in the last few weeks for there to be any chance of making the above allegation hold good in any disciplinary hearing.

My feeling is that there may be underlying issues in this matter over and above what is being stated on the surface. Headley must have been aware of the trouble he would cause for himself when he posted those words.

The RMT union has looked somewhat unstable in its structure since the sudden death of its almost legendary leader Bob Crow.

Thanks Grandad1943, appreciate your reply. It will be interesting to see what the put one of that hearing is because it has similar parallels to the Sheila Oakes case. Her offensive comments were made on her personal Facebook page and she also made no reference to her employers. However, her employers felt that she was sufficiently well enough known to be employed by them as to bring their company into disrepute by connection and she was summarily dismissed within days. Time will tell 're RMT's action though.

put one should be outcome

I'm sure all employers have very robust procedures in place setting out social media use.

Interesting parallel you draw there Chewbacca. It's certainly going to be an intriguing few weeks with this one. However, having been in attendance at very many disciplinary and employment tribunal hearings since 1985, the one thing I have very definitely learned is never to count on the outcome of any of them.

Chewbacca nothing to say then about a health secretary who warns NHS staff not to overuse PPE. I suppose that's OK .
If Headley made those remarks on his Facebook page which presumably has the same privacy settings as most of us it would only be shared with the people he is friends with. So actually not on a public forum at all. The question that might be asked is how did it become public property? There is also the question of freedom of speech, if he is not permitted to express himself but only to give the views of the RMT that would seem to be a restriction on his personal freedom. From the UN Declaration of Human Rights Everyone has a right to speak or write freely and right to join a peaceful group to express one's opinion.

I don’t think anyone On GN referred to the tories as vermin, and unacceptable as that is, it was Mr Hedley who said it.

No it wasn’t Lucca it was Nye Bevan talking about. Conservative MP’s, but trisher said that she agreed with him.Hopefully she doesn't also view Conservative voters in the same way ( vermin) but I have no way of knowing that.

Although this Headley chap probably has the same views as Nye Bevan too.

Sorry Lucca but you're wrong there, have a look at the post @ 16.50 today.

Too many left wingers enjoy living in the past.