Let it go! Let it go! Turn away and slam the door!

Whitewavemark2, well it would certainly seem that Jeremy Corbyn had a continuous Kangaroo court working against him from within the Labour Party Central Office.

Therefore I will ask again, is there a link to any inquiry being launched into this matter, as there is no reference to such on the Labour Party website or it would seem on any trade union or the TUC website?

He was talking about it on the radio this morning. R4 8.10 ish.

He is getting a grip. He has launched an enquiry by a completely independent body.

I assume you don’t agree with kangaroo courts?

Whitewavemark2 I am not aware that Starmer has launched an inquiry into the leaked report that has been placed in the hands of the press. If you have a link to such a report being brought forward please place it on here.

However, Starmer and all others on the right of the party have not even spoken on the reports and that is causing huge anger in the broader Labour movement which must be addressed.

One question which came up again and again on my trade union branch WhatsApp group last night was "have the employees who it is alleged carried out this action been suspended from their employment while any investigation takes place." That and others are questions that are requiring answers now not months down the road.

As stated the anger generated at these reports in the wider Labour movement cannot be underestimated as I witnessed on that branch WhatsApp last night. Much of what was stated in those posts could certainly not be reproduced on here without being immediately deleted.

Starmer needs to get a grip on this situation NOW if he is to have a party to lead at all in the near future.

Ellan why do you keep posting lies about the Labour Party? FFS. Do you think it’s fine to post without checking your facts? Just stop it

grandad you are spinning.

Starmer put his name forward after Corbyn resigned.

There is to be an enquiry into the matter.

Imo it will be sensible to wait for that outcome before passing judgement.

We are facing the biggest crises since the war. People are dying in their thousands.

It is utterly self indulgent to concentrate on perceived injustices that will become clear in the fullness of time, whilst neighbours, old folk and NHS staff are dying.

Those being so self indulgent need to get a grip.

As Starmer demonstrated in his leadership election campaign he is a "flip flopper" who will say anything he feels is inline with the way the wind is blowing.

Starmer hasn’t requested sending children back to school!

He said that various European countries are starting to do just that and we might be sensible to plan to do the same, but nothing is written in tablets of stone. Starmer is sensibly saying plan, plan, plan.

Saying that, I can't agree with Starmer's request at sending children back to school either. They're not guinea-pigs !

Eloethan, it was in the news, didn't you see it ? Some union waller, a friend of JC's.
Or do you just see what you want to see ? Mmm.

Whitewavemark2 in regard to your post @14:40 today, Starmer is trying to divert attention away from what we all know in truth has happened and from which he has gained.

Much of the media are now reporting the matter of how employees in the Labour Party Central Office worked to prevent Labour winning the 2017 General Election because they did not accept the election of its leader.

Those who will not condemn that action cannot state they are democratic in their views or in support of the Labour movement and cause.

Report on what went on in Labours Central office in 2017 and since can be found by following this link:-

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/labour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html?amp#aoh=15869568699781&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk%2Fpolitics%2Flabour-leak-report-corbyn-election-whatsapp-antisemitism-tories-yougov-poll-a9462456.html

There are many more similar reports to be found with a Google search.

I’m waiting to hear the outcome grandad - frankly I’m finding the whole thing tiresome to say the least. Starmer is commissioning an independent body to deal with the matter ASAP.
I shall come to a considered opinion once the matter has been dealt with by this body. Until then it seems a sterile activity to keep on and on. Rather like the antisemitism issue. My opinion is - deal with it, find out the truth of the matter and sort it. End of.

Ellen JC did tweet his best wishes for a speedy recovery but I suppose you didn’t want to check your post but rather post a lie.

Whitewavemark2, do you support those within the Labour Party who worked to ensure that Corbyn and the Labour never won the 2017 General Election. Those people also then went on to inhibit the General Secretary in her attempts to "sort out" the anti-Semitism issue in the party.

I find the above totally disgusting and should be condemned by all who state they support the Labour movement?

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

If it's another two weeks until we hit the peak, that's probably another month of lockdown (this time). The next peak will perhaps be in the autumn, with further lockdown in winter. That will be hard to endure.

I wonder which 'version' they'll choose. This article assumes herd immunity, unproven as yet. Initial research suggests that the young may have weak immunity:

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/15/when-uk-lockdown-end-exit-strategy-coronavirus/

Callistemon in regard to your post @13:54 today, it should not be just one period in the history of the Labour Party that should be consigned to the dusty archives, but the whole shambles of this present Parliamentary Labour Party.

Any party that has persons employed within it that work to stop that party from winning elections because they will not accept the overwhelming election of its leader deserves nothing else short of being consigned to history.

I rather like his passion for manhole covers

Also, his 2015 Christmas card was super. Far better than any of the offerings from other political parties

Carry on!

I've nothing else to say really.

OK callistemon what shall we say about Corbyn next?

Such fun!!

I cannot see absolutely why a period in the history of the Labour Party should be confined to the dusty archives, especially when the previous leader is still a serving MP.

Another area that is being looked at is by Miliband and the way the loan scheme is working, he has sent letters to the government to advise on the issue because it has is not working as intended and giving examples of the best way forward and how it can been tweaked.

I think that unless people are spoon fed information, they assume that nothing is happening.

Starmer attends the cobra meeting every week, he is constantly talking to the various government ministers, but he said at the start of his leadership, that he would be constructively critical as a good leader of any opposition should be.

So looking at what and how we are going to end this lockdown.

The problem is that we know that the government woefully lacked appropriate planning for the first 2 -3 months of the year, and all that Starmer is trying to encourage them to do is not to repeat the same mistake aS we come out of lockdown . That planning will assist the government to consider the pitfalls and upsides.

Seems eminently sensible to me.

I’ve voted for various parties over the years but not labour. I thought Starmer might be a good thing for the country as a decent opposition is vital but Starmer is already proving a huge disappointment.

I agree Sussexborn he's now urging the Gov. to publish it's exit from the lock down strategy. When he was elected leader he was all about working with the Gov. for the good of the country.

I was wondering when I heard what he had to say this morning, why the labour party weren't offering to work with the Gov. on an exit strategy, and then it dawned on me. If heaven forbid the exit strategy that's implemented goes wrong, if Labour haven't had a say in it, they'l be able to pin all the blame on the Gov.

My feeling at this point in time are that the trades unions and all other affiliated organisations within the broader Labour movement should "pull the plug" on this existing excuse for a Parliamentary Labour party and place its efforts into the inception of a fresh political left-leaning party from within the TUC.