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Let it go! Let it go! Turn away and slam the door!

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GagaJo Wed 15-Apr-20 10:41:36

As a previous Corbynista, I was sad at his stepping down, but hey. That's life. Upwards and onwards.

UNLESS you're a Tory it seems. Many right-wingers, not the left-wingers please note, on here (and IRL) do not appear to be able to say adieu to JC. Constantly harping on about him.

Now, I do think he's a good guy. But he's the past. Life's moved on and we have MUCH more important stuff that we're dealing with now. So why the constant references by NON supporters?

If the roles had been reversed and JC was PM, I wouldn't be giving BJ another thought. I find it all very odd.

Sussexborn Wed 15-Apr-20 13:02:01

Possibly because labour has been a total and absolute shambles with no decent candidates to offer, constantly bickering and betraying each other in public.

Keir Starmer who was involved in disgracing so many innocent men because he was unable or unwilling to recognise a fantasist and, despite all his promises to work with the govt in the current crisis, is doing the opposite and undermining the good work of the last weeks of isolation.

tickingbird Wed 15-Apr-20 13:01:04

Gagajo I personally never hated JC and have stated as much on this forum before. However, I didn’t agree with his policies.

Opal Wed 15-Apr-20 12:54:54

I don't give him another thought unless I'm prompted by something - like your OP Gagajo. So if you want people to put him in the past and forget him, why have you posted a reminder? All you've managed to achieve is to remind me how much I can't stand the t**t. Or was that your intention?

Grandad1943 Wed 15-Apr-20 12:52:44

Whether the wider labour movement retains its one hundred year support of the Parliamentary Party will be the major crisis facing Starmer in the months following the end of this current crisis.

Should that retention happen then getting trade union members who pay the political levy to continue that affiliation will then be a considerable further problem?

I believe that the re-submission of political levy affiliation forms is due to take place later this year. In that, it has to be remembered that in 2016, which was the last time that affiliation had to take place, the Unite Union gained the permission of eighty-five percent of its one and half million members to pay the political levy with other unions also gaining high results.

Lay activists in those unions placed huge effort into the above campaign, but I feel that same effort will not be forthcoming in the impending affiliation campaign.

Certainly, the reports of Labour party employees within Central Office working against the Labour Party winning the 2017 general election due to Corbyn being the leader will have "knocked the stuffing" out of very many activists in the wider Labour movement in regard to once more campaigning in support of retaining backing for this shambles of a Parliamentary Labour Party

Callistemon Wed 15-Apr-20 12:52:07

You've given me a very annoying earworm, GagaJo

Callistemon Wed 15-Apr-20 12:49:30

I'm confused
Why start a thread about him if the way is upwards and onwards and we should let it go?

I do hope we hadn't heard the last of him.
I want him to write a book about vegetable and fruit growing and jam and chutney making.

I would buy it (if reasonably priced of course).

sodapop Wed 15-Apr-20 12:08:03

I agree Eleothan an unnecessary comment.

Oopsminty Wed 15-Apr-20 11:54:42

It isn't left-wingers harping back.

Funnily enough I've just read a post about Corbyn

I think it might have been a left leaning poster

GagaJo Wed 15-Apr-20 11:54:35

Possibly Oldwoman70. Although I live in the middle of the area decimated by her policies so for the last 10 years, I've been confronted with it daily at work. Teaching working-class children who have no future because there is no industry for them to work in.

Plus, as I said. She was PM. It's apples and oranges, rather than a cox and a pippin.

GagaJo Wed 15-Apr-20 11:52:29

I agree, re: comments about BJ while ill Smileless2012. No one deserves that.

But other than that, the sniping continues. If I could be bothered, I'd copy and paste into my posts, as some others do when riled. But I can't be a**sed frankly.

Oldwoman70 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:52:00

Margaret Thatcher resigned as PM in 1992 - 27 years ago. She has been dead for 6 years isn't that long enough to "let it go".

GagaJo Wed 15-Apr-20 11:50:45

Ahh don't egg the haters on GD1943!

Ah yes, the oxymoron of right-wing Labour. So much underhand machination in the election both externally and internally. BUT we're done with it for 5 years and frankly, I'm not engaging with it for at least 4 of them, if ever again. UK politics are not actually politics anymore. They are the exercising of wealth and covert power, much like the US.

Smileless2012 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:49:57

You brought him back GagaJo. I disliked the man's politics among other things but didn't hate him and there's no way I'd have even thought some of the things I saw here on GN about BJ when he was in intensive care, never mind say them, if it had been JC who was so ill.

Grandad1943 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:45:09

With reports emerging of how the right within the Labour party deliberately work against a Corbyn led victory in the 2017 general election, I feel that Keir Starmer will have great difficulty in preventing the wider Labour movement from making a complete break with the present Parliamentary Labour Party.

However, in my view with the deservedly growing anger against the actions of the right in the Labour Party in recent years, it is not looking good for the future whoever now leads the Parliamentary party.

Ironically Corbyn and McDonald may have key roles to play in the above, as should Corbyn and McDonald encourage the trades unions to continue their support of the Labour party then that could prove pivotal in the debates and decisions to come.

GagaJo Wed 15-Apr-20 11:43:15

Margaret Thatcher was PRIME Minister. Slightly different kettle of fish. HUGE power differential. Other Tory PM's. Indifferent now in all honesty. They've been and gone.

Nope. No sour grapes at all. I am all for change. He was there. I supported him. He's gone. It's the past. It isn't left-wingers harping back.

You hated him. He's gone. Be happy!

Eglantine21 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:32:13

I thought Annie’s comment was valid.

I took it that she was pointing out that “the idiots” who were castigated for voting for this government didn’t have any viable alternative other than abstention. (Which a lot of people did)

tickingbird Wed 15-Apr-20 11:28:37

Unbelievable really. Margaret Thatcher is long gone and is still being blamed for all sorts of stuff. I think your post has more than a touch of sour grapes Gagajo.

Jabberwok Wed 15-Apr-20 11:24:17

I seem to remember that BJ made an appropriate speech to J.C when parliament broke up for Easter! Admittedly the good wishes were greeted with a scowl of pure loathing from JC, which I suppose was only to be expected. On here I don't think, apart from Annie in passing, anybody has mentioned this person!

Eloethan Wed 15-Apr-20 11:22:01

EllenVannin Your opinion about Labour organising a "knees up"in the hope of Boris Johnson not making it is, in my view, totally unacceptable.

nightowl Wed 15-Apr-20 11:20:47

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Just for the sake of accuracy

Oldwoman70 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:18:39

Perhaps the same could be asked as to why "left wingers" sometimes refer to Margaret Thatcher

Kandinsky Wed 15-Apr-20 11:18:09

Is he disappearing completely?
I thought he was still MP for Islington? So he’s not the past is he.

Smileless2012 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:13:16

TBH the only bitchy comments on I've seen on GN of late have been about BJ, other tory MP's and tory supporters.

If you don't like any reference to JC, why start a thread about him?

Pantglas2 Wed 15-Apr-20 11:08:16

I think most of us middle of the roaders and also the right wingers are probably thanking our lucky stars out loud for the lucky escape we had. And to be fair, it’s less than a month since he stopped being a leader.

Let’s hope Keir Starmer measures up in the next few months and gives the Government a run for their money.

Oopsminty Wed 15-Apr-20 11:04:25

I've not seen any mention of Corbyn at all until I read this thread

I'm not suggesting he hasn't been mentioned

Where are these many right wingers who bring him up?