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Whitewavemark2 Mon 25-May-20 17:31:13

Next one

GNHQ edit: Following on from previous thread linked to here: Will he resign?

growstuff Fri 29-May-20 02:11:57

Maybee I've already posted the link on the thread about going back to school.

MayBee70 Fri 29-May-20 01:19:24

Independent sage Q& A is so different to the daily propaganda briefing. Raised so many questions about schools returning. Seems to me that the government are just talking a one size fits all approach whereas everything needs to be looked at in different areas. Something that was put to Matt Hancock the other day but he did, in fact ignore it. One concern I have, given that our local primary school will be using the village hall as a classroom is that of security. We’ve had some well weird people living in our village at times, including a paedophile shopkeeper. I do hope the staffing levels are good.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 29-May-20 00:09:54

I’m going to sleep. It is way past my bedtime. I’m a lark!

MayBee70 Thu 28-May-20 23:53:27

I'm just about to watch the independent sage's utube talk; don't think I can do a link. I know the gist of it is that if children go back to school on 15th and not 1st it would halve the infection rate amongst children. I know most of them don't get seriously ill with it but it will have a knock on effect of infecting other members of their family. At least the so called scientific advisors are sticking to the 2 metre distancing rule and not reducing it so that pubs can open. I'll probably end up watching all the sage talks now I've found them. It's going to be a long night.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-May-20 22:38:49

Coming over the horizon are the enquiries and reports on Cummings and Johnson’s handling of the crises. It won’t make pretty reading.

I can remember this being talked about at the very beginning of the crises.

EXCLUSIVE: ITV News has obtained evidence that it was always the plan to discharge Covid-19 patients into care homes.

1,800 beds were block booked in care homes by the NHS and councils for that exact purpose.

...And they’re still being discharged.

MissAdventure Thu 28-May-20 21:25:54

It's fine if others want to.
Not me though.

gangy5 Thu 28-May-20 21:23:42

Time to give up- it's all over now !!

Elegran Thu 28-May-20 20:41:02

If we want to read the article we can follow the link, GrannySomerset If we don't want to read the article we can ignore the link. Freedom of choice!

It happens to be in the Guardian - sometimes they do have good articles! Sometimes the Daily Mail does too.

merlotgran Thu 28-May-20 20:00:37

Very good article. Thank you, Lucca

Lucca Thu 28-May-20 19:48:46

Grannysomerset. I posted a link to what I thought was an Exceptionally well written article. Is that not allowed ?

MissAdventure Thu 28-May-20 19:32:16

Only if members on here said it was ok. wink

GrannySomerset Thu 28-May-20 19:29:44

Surely if we wanted to read The Guardian we would?

Grannynannywanny Thu 28-May-20 19:28:06

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Lucca Thu 28-May-20 18:54:41

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/27/boris-johnson-coronavirus-dominic-cummings?CMP=fb_gu&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1590653236

MayBee70 Thu 28-May-20 18:41:20

I've asked this before but would we still have been able to keep the supply chain going if we weren't still in the single market till the end of the year? I did read somewhere that it would have been very difficult.

MissAdventure Thu 28-May-20 18:36:08

I think you may have to be 18?

growstuff Thu 28-May-20 18:35:50

Fennel Starmer has time on his side. He also has a lot more going for him.

I honestly don't think Johnson and Cummings will be around for the next General Election. Goodness know what's going to happen when the UK finally leaves the EU - with no deal. The Conservatives also have to stick to their promises to do something about all the so-called "left behind" areas which voted Conservative for the first time. There was already tension between the traditional shire Tories and those (including Cummings) who wanted massive investment in poorer areas. It's going to be "interesting".

Starmer has to keep his nose clean, build up an effective team and, even with the Scotland problem, the next election could/should be his. The Tories will hang themselves.

Galaxy Thu 28-May-20 18:29:05

Thanks varian, do you know if you have to be 16 to sign, I have had a look and cant find any indication. Asking for my son rather than megrin

varian Thu 28-May-20 18:22:34

They might as well be the scientific advisors to the Chinese government.

Elegran Thu 28-May-20 18:21:31

"And the scientific advisors are going along with it. Even refusing to answer the question about driving to test your eyesight." Without saying a word about politics or Cummings, they are demonstrating silently that they are not allowed to disagree! That is their statement - you can silence criticism, but that silence itself can be eloquent.

MissAdventure Thu 28-May-20 18:11:40

I just checked it.
Signatures being added almost every second, now.

varian Thu 28-May-20 18:09:40

The petition demanding the sacking of Dominic Cummings is nearing one million signatures. If you haven't signed, here is the link.

www.change.org/p/dominic-cummings-must-be-sacked/u/26728047?cs_tk=AjSjXkPVvNIsQZg-0V4AAXicyyvNyQEABF8BvC8HKzUC7VjFmkcrR7bXSJA%3D&utm_campaign=33ba4e176bc8492d8c9848b50f4cf681&utm_content=initial_v0_4_0&utm_medium=email&utm_source=petition_update&utm_term=cs

merlotgran Thu 28-May-20 18:03:38

They are not interested nor do they want to discuss politics.

Well, they would say that wouldn't they?

I would have preferred them to be able to give that response themselves.

Wheniwasyourage Thu 28-May-20 18:00:29

To go back a bit, Jabberwok - you say that Ian Blackford did the same thing. As growstuff pointed out, no he didn't. However, if the Minister for the Eighteenth Century Jacob Rees-Mogg gets his way and the virtual Parliament is cancelled, there are going to have to be an awful lot of MPs doing an awful lot of travelling. Of course, they could then stay in London, which robs most of them of a family life and the ability to visit their constituencies. I suppose they'll just have to do that or else invoke the Cummings let-out and keep travelling.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 28-May-20 17:59:03

Someone just said.

Johnson intervened and prevented the scientists from answering the questions.

He interfered with their independence..