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Can't believe it!

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phoenix Sat 30-May-20 16:23:47

No one has posted about George Floyd!

Disgraceful killing.

Are we unable to look beyond our own immediate locality? Have we stopped caring about anything beyond bloody Covid 19 and the fact we can't see our grandchildren?

Sorry, not my usual sort of post, will don my tin helmet and get behind the sofa.

CherryCezzy Sun 31-May-20 14:27:09

I'm not being a trouble maker EllenVannin or indeed picking on you. I'm not a bully, I never have been or ever will be so I am sorry if you felt that I was it was not my intention.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 15:40:07

I have just seen live footage from Trafalgar Square, London^ hoards of protesters in support of George Floyd, no social distancing.

Purplepoppies Sun 31-May-20 15:45:45

I thoroughly dislike the use of 'the blacks' . Its not a nice way to describe people! They are people who happen to have black skin. African Americans if they are American (in this case) but ultimately they are PEOPLE.

Jabberwok Sun 31-May-20 15:49:37

There isn't anywhere, the beauty spots are packed, the beaches overflowing, the cars nose to tail and London streets full of protesters including the press, without a thought for social distancing. I can't really think why the government is bothering any more, just open everything up properly and let there be a free for all! People will do it anyway, so why bother to try and stop them, let them get on with it!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 15:50:28

I agree Purplepoppies the most racist people I have ever encountered are the older generation white Kenyans the only time I have felt ashamed to be in anybody's company.

MawB Sun 31-May-20 15:53:12

Isn’t this diverting the thread Jabberwok ?
For once we need to look beyond our own shores.

Jabberwok Sun 31-May-20 15:55:03

I agree Pp, I think it sounds derogatory which of course it was when I was young! I always tried to say where the person came from, people were African, Indian , Australian,whatever. Black sounds horrid.

4allweknow Sun 31-May-20 15:58:39

The officer who has been arrested apparently has a history of violence. The system needs cleaning up if such a person is allowed to continue in the role of a police officer.

Jabberwok Sun 31-May-20 15:59:08

Not sure what you mean MawB. I was commenting about the crowded beaches etc!

Aspen Sun 31-May-20 16:25:24

To think Megan and Harry accused Britain of being racist. Los Angeles is not looking so wonderful now.

MawB Sun 31-May-20 16:33:01

And I understood the thread to be about the riots in the US and the appalling murder of a black citizen by Minneapolis police. And Trumps aggravation of the situation and his Tweet “When they start looting, we start shooting” hmm

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 16:54:48

There is live footage online of hundreds of protesters outside the gates of Downing Street chanting F~~k the police at the police guarding it, our Police have done nothing wrong!!!

This scene is being repeated in Trafalgar Square, Peckham, Cardiff and outside the American Embassy in London and numerous other places. I do hope that these protesters will show their appreciation to the key workers /NHS staff looking after them when they need it in a couple of weeks time #Covid-19 #no social distancing.

Jishere Sun 31-May-20 17:00:16

GrannyGravy it is a sad time and I guess if people feel they need to protest. There was a protest the other week in London about being in lockdown no social distancing there as well. I bet public transport has been packed today!!
Jabberwok I just read a post on the other thread that wrote how organised the officials at the beach are, that was quite refreshing!

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 17:03:53

Jishere I posted about our local beaches being organised well.

Jennyluck Sun 31-May-20 17:04:46

This utterly sickened me. I hate abuse of power, unfortunately in America it seems the norm.

Jishere Sun 31-May-20 17:06:25

I agree GG the pressure the police are under. It just so sad.

Jishere Sun 31-May-20 17:10:43

Yes I thought it was your post on the other thread it does sound very organised. I just hope other coast lines can follow suit because I heard only last week some of the toilets were not opened at one of our coastlines. So that caused numerous problems for those who were down there.

grabba Sun 31-May-20 17:52:13

I heard this on the radio yesterday , appalling

Bluecat Sun 31-May-20 18:09:01

All of us here are old enough to remember the story of police brutality followed by rioting being played out over and over again in America. Nothing ever happens to break the cycle.

There's a good clip on YouTube where Trevor Noah discusses the murder of George Floyd and the Minnesota riots. He also talks about the white woman who told a black man that she would call the police, and say an African American man was threatening her life, when he asked her to control her dog. I don't know how to put a link to YouTube, but you only have to Google "Trevor Noah George Floyd" and it comes up. I thought he was very perceptive and sensible. Well worth a watch.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 31-May-20 18:25:23

I have seen that video Bluecat the women has been sacked by her employer.

rafichagran Sun 31-May-20 18:38:27

I have just come back to this thread. Thankyou PP for pointing out The description The Blacks is racist.
I would really hate my partner to be described in that way, and I would take offence at anyone who used it on mine or our presence.

Sparkling Sun 31-May-20 18:53:14

No doubt that he was murdered. No one listens to what the demonstrators say, it’s as if if your black there it means your life isn’t important. Trump is a disgrace he incites violence. Shame on him and people with the same mindset.

GreenGran78 Sun 31-May-20 19:16:18

I saw two items from America on Facebook yesterday. The first was about a young Hispanic lady, married to a white man. She was stopped in the street by a cop who insisted on doing a thorough check to see if she was an illegal immigrant. Why was he suspicious? Because she was talking to her young daughter in Spanish. This wasn't near the Mexican border, but in the north.
The second item was written by a black man. He says that the only way he can go for a neighbourhood walk without getting white people eyeing him suspiciously is to take with him his little daughter and his small dog. He loves birds, but can't go bird-watching without people thinking that he is up to no good. This is just because he is 6'2" well-built, and black.

A huge proportion of the prison population in the USA is non-white, and apparently many of them are innocent - 'stitched up' by the police for an easy conviction.

There are quite a lot of racial problems here in the UK, and the police are often accused of bias against black people. Thank heavens, though, they can't get away with blatant murder in full view of the public.

Summerlove Sun 31-May-20 20:36:51

Of course this is terrible but what was briefly in the news the woman who was tormented and raped in Ukraine by two police officers. Surely this matters too?

Oh of course it does. But bringing it up here to diminish what happened to George Floyd is not ok.

Be better than that.

We must all be better

Summerlove Sun 31-May-20 20:38:06

Maizie, the 80s are a long time ago. I truly believe our police are better now.

By this line of thought, America’s police should be better after what happened to Rodney King.

They obviously are not.