Can't believe it!

Summerlove What do u mean was not Ok? That wasn't to dimish what has happened to poor Goerge Floyd and no way takes away the high level of racislim that exists in the USA to the extent that it's ended in his cold bloody murder. It was to point out that this has been in the news earlier in the week and was regarding corrupt police and their brutal treatment of a women.
Dont Tell me what I should or shouldn't post. If you have no opinion on said subject don't nick pick mine as you yourself should be better than that. My god we did go off on a tangent and write about how busy beaches have got! Seen it lots on these threads so don't pick on mine.

You must have missed my opinion earlier in the thread. I didn’t tell you want to post or not, but more hoping to get you to be aware that “what about” doesn’t help

'What about' I cant find it but it won't help George Floyd now but sadly there is discrimination and corrupt police around the world. Please stop nit picking it's a waste of energy.

Says the woman nit picking. Who also told me not to tell other posters how or what to post.

It might not help George Floyd.
Talking about the American system being inherently racist, and not bringing in other crimes could help another black man from sharing his fate.

I understand it’s uncomfortable to think about. But we need to. We need to look into systemic racism. If we don’t speak against it, we tactically support it.

So no, I won’t stop posting

I just have to say, which is not racist, but this man actually did a crime, so then an arrest has to be made. If you can say I cant breathe, I am sure you can breathe. He did not die there and then as he stood up and was put in the back of a police car. Wait until the autopsy comes back and we might get some truth to the matter. When I watch the policeman with his knee on his neck, it does not look to me like he is chocking as that is when he is talking. Maybe things happened after the 2 minutes of film which we saw, but I am sorry but most of the criminal factor in America at the moment is young black kids. Do they know there is a Pandemic on?

"I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. In the final analysis, the riot is the language of the unheard. What is it that America has failed to hear? In a sense, our nation's summers of riots are caused by our winter’s delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these occurrences of riots and violence over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.”

MLK

It could be said of any country-

Lynne, you couldn't remove the prejudicial tone from your post any more than you could could remove the color black from a person's skin to make it white-

It's disgusting, he was a human being. The cops in USA have turned even more violent and fuelled by Trump. I have several relatives over there and they hate the way the country is changing under Trump's leadership.

If you are of white heritage, as I am, it's impossible to fully know what it's like to be a person of colour. We simply do not experience the constant never ending emphasis of shade of skin and negative associations.

To live with that as a starting point and still go on to create decent lives for themselves and their families takes a courage I doubt I possess.

rosecarmel

Thank you for posting the MLK quote.

It’s message should stand as a beacon and goal for every government.

Lynn54 your account of what happened during this barbaric incident bears little resemblance to the video shown worldwide.

Mr Floyd pleaded for his life as he struggled to breath air into his lungs. He had a knee pressed into his neck for almost 9 minutes during which he became unresponsive and the savages responsible were unable to detect a pulse. But still continued to kneel on his neck while an ambulance was summoned.

He did not stand up from there and get into a car. His lifeless body was lifted on a stretcher into an ambulance.

Despite police officers fully trained in emergency first aid no attempt was made to resuscitate him. The knee was still on his neck for a further 3 mins after he was unconscious

If you can say I cant breathe, I am sure you can breathe

I suspect anyone who has cared for a seriously covid patient will disagree strongly.

I think people do care, I know that I care immensely, but there seems to be such horror and misery in the world at the moment that sometimes it’s just too much , and you need to concentrate on things like getting your hair done or seeing the grandchildren just to keep sane. But I think there isn’t a GN’r out there who isn’t saddened and outraged about mans inhumanity to man.

In 2018 49 police officers were killed on duty in the US, how many riots have started because any of them were killed?. How much sympathy do their families get. If it was a white man died during an arrest there would have been no riot, whites are involved in criminality and are handled in exactly the same way as Blacks or Hispanics - with extreme caution.

We’ve seen so called race riots in the U.K. it’s an excuse for the criminal underclass to exploit the breakdown in law and order. There is no doubt that drugs play a big part in criminality and a large number of arrests are high on drugs which makes the person irrational violent and very difficult to subdue and secure. Every police office knows the very last thing you want to happen is for someone to die in your charge, black or white, because the consequences are severe. This case was not racism, it’s exactly what causes a riot which is to be avoided at all costs, many others have died in the riots, not to mention looting and other criminality.

Even in the UK there is open hostility to the police and other public services, anyone in uniform. It’s not just ethnic minorities it’s across the population, the real divide is between the “haves and the have nots” and the uniforms represent the “haves”.

He knelt on his neck David.

At what point in this saga was the criminal escorted to the police car as he was walking then?

He was taken away in an ambulance already dying. He was walking to the police car and then murdered by the policeman.

If you can say I cant breathe, I am sure you can breathe. He did not die there and then as he stood up and was put in the back of a police car.

Lynne54!

I can't believe you've written that

He did NOT stand up and get in the car.

Why on earth don't people get facts right. Especially in a case like this.

The policeman killed the man. With the help of his 3 chums

It was deplorable

I cant breathe has been said by numerous people who died in restraint incidents. You can see the case studies if you google restraint and I can't breathe.

Lynne he was alleged to have passed a counterfeit 20$ note. I once was given a fake £10 note and never noticed until it was spotted.

Whatever the circumstances this man was murdered in broad daylight by violent, racist police. Thugs. And the so-called ‘president’ is fanning the flames for his own ends.

So this is how to Make America Great Again?

Shameful.

Unfortunately a large number of young black males in the US (and to a lesser extent here) seem to have a huge chip on their shoulder and this often manifests itself in mindless violence and looting as a protest against alleged racism.

There will be an investigation into the police behaviour.

The violence was carried out by a white man.

Maybe things happened after the 2 minutes of film which we saw

You might have seen only 2 minutes but the footage that many people saw was 6 minutes long.

So yes, if you say you saw 2 minutes, I can assure you that things DID happen

The man died with a knee on his carotid artery.

He was killed by the police for passing a fake note in a deli

I can't believe Davidh's post, either.

You might not have meant it like that, David but it reeks of White Supremacy.

From Snopes, the fact checking site. Figures are old (to 2016) but show the trend

According to the most recent census data, there are nearly 160 million more white people in America than there are black people. White people make up roughly 62 percent of the U.S. population but only about 49 percent of those who are killed by police officers. African Americans, however, account for 24 percent of those fatally shot and killed by the police despite being just 13 percent of the U.S. population. As The Post noted in a new analysis, that means black Americans are 2.5 times as likely as white Americans to be shot and killed by police officers.

Sorry, forgot the link for reference

www.snopes.com/fact-check/do-police-kill-more-whites-than-black-people/