Black Lives Matter versus All Lives Matter

I've got 'hot under the collar' about the wilful vandalism and destruction of statues and other property Whitewavemark not because I think they're more important than lives but because I believe in peaceful and lawful demonstration not mob rule.

I certainly don't agree with fascism but in a democracy I agree as Rosalyn has posted, that they have as much right to march and protest as anyone else providing they do so lawfully and peacefully.

It's beginning to look that way Jabberwok which is a great shame as any good the BLM movement will be able to do, could well be undone.

The racists are attacking the police. Oh dear!

Bizarre that they give the Nazi salute as they “defend” Churchill’s statue?????

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Contrast the scene in London with the facist disruption to the scene in Brighton today. All social distancing stretching for mikes along the sea front

No thought or consideration about spreading the virus.

Some hypocrisy going on here if any of them have any thought about lives mattering. What a sham.

You could contrast that scene in Brighton today with the scenes from the protest marches last weekend where no social distancing was adhered too and police and police horses were being attacked.

I'm not sure what you mean by your post "The racists are attacking the police. Oh dear!" Could you explain?

Johnson has apparently become the fascists pin-up.

Due we assume to his recent rhetoric

smileless ? um isn’t it self explanatory?

I certainly am not going to post “the racists are attacking the police. Hoorah” am I?

Ian Dunt
@IanDunt
Don't bother expending any energy trying to understand those people in London right now. It's not complicated. They're thugs and white supremacists. It's as simple as that. And they should be treated accordingly.

Unpopular as it may be but once one group of people start to protest it generates a counter protest by another group. Like it or not, not everyone agrees with the BLM protests.

To defend a statue of Churchill against people who don’t seem to be there and giving a Nazi salute whilst doing so shows a massive level of stupidity though.

Where did they get their alcohol? The pubs aren’t open are they?

Planning ahead so if anyone does turn up to deface it they wont be able too.

I’m am talking about the fascists not the box around the statue.

Just look at these fascists. You know who these people are. You've seen them before. Outside clubs, and football grounds. You know what they really want. If you ally yourself to these people, then you need to take a really careful look at yourself in the mirror.

Honestly WW2 you're beginning to sound a bit manic! I think you need a rest from all this excitement !
The Off Licences are open as are the Supermarkets, hope this answers your query!

Apparently There is NO BLM protest today.

They knew what the far-right were up to and moved it to yesterday.

Those clashing with Police in and around Parliament, are doing so because they're bigoted, racist thugs, nothing else.

They've no counter protest to clash with.

Judging from the pictures, they have!!!

Whitewavemark2, not every football fan is a fascist , in fact I would say from going to watch football many times over the years the vast majority of fans just want to watch football, not scrap or cause issues. As with everything , the headline
' People enjoy a peaceful game of football' grabs no headlines. ' Yobs pelt players' does.

Tbh if the statue of Winston incurs such fury,then perhaps it would be better in a museum for its own safety. The plinth could be left though!!

Discussion going on about BAME doctors having been let down by lack of protective gear.

Well well, how many blacks are in the protests ? Aren't they supposed to be high-risk for the virus ? How utterly selfish !!

1 in 5 catch the virus in hospital. So if anyone has to visit hospital for an injury, it'll be no thanks to them if we have a second wave.

To those defending the thugs in London today ...

Why exactly are they there? The statues have been protected. BLM doesn't have a huge presence.

A photographer had his nose broken by one of the thugs before it even started, they did Nazi salutes in front of the statue in front of the person who fought off fascism (think they might need a history lesson there) and now they're punching and fighting with the police. And they manage to do that holding a can of beer! Nice people!

They are there to be racist, fight, cause pointless aggravation, and be scummy, that's it!

Whitewave has no need to calm down. Maybe the people who think she should, endorse the kind of scummy behaviour we're seeing today.

Oh! And they started off their patriotic protest by singing "10 German bombers".

I can't wait for Johnson and Patel to condemn the disgraceful behaviour.

They have a strange way of showing respect for memorials. This is the memorial for the police officer who was killed in the 2017 terrorist attack in London.

A thug is a thug, whether they are black, white or any shade in between, whatever their political leanings.

Footage of the demonstration taking place in London today. This was billed as being to protect statues and the cenotaph from BLM protestors.

BLM cancelled their march, fearing there would be trouble. So what are this lot so angry about and why are they attacking the police?

twitter.com/BBCDomC/status/1271761377317851136

And this:
twitter.com/mattuthompson/status/1271774991454015489

and this

twitter.com/Urban_Pictures/status/1271772530529972224

twitter.com/AvaSantina/status/1271779403928870913