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Why do far right protesters Attack the police?

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vegansrock Sat 13-Jun-20 17:51:39

One would have thought that far right protesters would not be anti police. Why can’t they have a peaceful protest?

GG65 Sun 14-Jun-20 12:54:36

Nazi salutes? Can they not see the sick irony between their supposed pride in this country defeating nazi-ism in the war and now them standing in front of the status of Churchill and performing Nazi salutes

I’m pretty sure that they do not have that level of intelligence June.

Starblaze Sun 14-Jun-20 12:24:57

Unless those on the right want to be associated with these racist thugs, stop associating the left with any on their side.

You cannot have it both ways.

Every time you say "oh but the left!!" you acknowledge these thugs as one of you.

The only reason I can think of not to call out ALL bad behaviour is the fact that when you do (as I do being left leaning moderate) , you actually see that the right wing are the worse.

Callistemon Sun 14-Jun-20 12:16:34

GrannyGravy13

So why are the far left attacking veterans with bottles and flares in Newcastle at the moment.

Both of the fars are capable of thuggery, to not acknowledge this is an act of ^political blindness^

I was going to ask why BLM protestors attack horses?

Anniebach Sun 14-Jun-20 12:15:47

growstuff I can’t agree your link was a reasonable debate

JuneRose Sun 14-Jun-20 12:15:23

Statue!

JuneRose Sun 14-Jun-20 12:14:20

Vile man. Manipulates mindless thugs to behave in violent and disgraceful way. Nazi salutes? Can they not see the sick irony between their supposed pride in this country defeating nazi-ism in the war and now them standing in front of the status of Churchill and performing Nazi salutes. I'm sure the vast majority in this country want equality for all but while far right and far left extremists stir up fear and hatred when will we ever achieve that goal?

Starblaze Sun 14-Jun-20 11:56:09

He disgusts me.

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 11:55:54

The London Ambulance Service has stated it treated two police officers yesterday. Maybe the riot gear gave them some protection.

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 11:52:51

Is this the kind of reasonable debate people want?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zKe7QmeuoA

Whitewavemark2 Sun 14-Jun-20 11:14:10

They didn’t have a picnic in the park, they roamed into the park and attacked picnickers.

MaizieD Sun 14-Jun-20 10:49:27

I foresaw there would be action in response to statues being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing.

Is this the sort of 'calm discussion' you want to see, Annie?

25Avalon's statement here is certainly correct in that the far right organised themselves to get to London to 'defend' statues from possible 'assault' by BLM protestors. (Let's not get into detail about how very minimal that 'assault' actually was and how some commentators have noted that grafittiing statues is commonplace during 'protests'). Being far right they don't believe that lor'n order is sufficiently well exercised in Ingerland. So they're coming to do the job they think the police won't do. I'm finding all this quite understandable up to this point.

So they get to London, discover that BLM protest has been cancelled (was actually held the night before; if they'd watched the news they'd have known their mission was pointless, but they still turned up) and they have no function.

So why did they attack the police? Why didn't they just go home, or have a picnic in the park?

While typing this I have developed a theory and the second part of 25Avalon's question seems to support it. ..being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing. I think they attacked the police because they are angry that the police aren't doing the job they want them to do, which is, basically, to reproduce US policing techniques and hit all non white people hard... Looking at some of their twitter timelines I find that they really do believe that the police are soft on coloured people and that they, the whites, are victimised by the police.

Maggiemaybe Sun 14-Jun-20 10:38:49

27 unarmed police officers were injured at the peaceful protests in London last week (at least two seriously). I’ve seen no mention at all on news reports of how they’re recovering or of how many have been hurt this weekend, but from the photos I’ve seen it’s obvious that the numbers will be much higher.

They don’t matter, to the thugs who’d attack anyone who stopped them having their fun, or to the many on social media who at best casually condemn all police officers as brutal and/or racist and at worst call for more attacks on them. They’re despised for being weak when they hold back for fear of exacerbating a situation, condemned when they go in strongly. They’re society’s whipping boys (and girls), and I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone chooses to join their ranks. It’s certainly not for the pay, the hours, the fun or the respect from the general public.

For those in my family, it’s because they genuinely want to make a difference. I’m very proud of them, but after the experiences they’ve had, I wish they’d chosen easier ways of doing it.

Callistemon Sun 14-Jun-20 10:29:05

Apply the law to all of them

I agree.
We have only been out once for months and, if we travelled just a mile from home, risk being stopped by the police and quizzed on where and how far we are going.

The country seems to be divided into two. Those who are essential workers, together with those obeying the rules, self-distancing, not travelling far, trying to protect the NHS and those who flout the rules whether for their own selfish pleasures or to go out on to the streets to protest for whatever reason.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jun-20 10:14:44

I agree 25Avalon

I wish what happened yesterday could be discussed calmly .

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Jun-20 10:14:03

Violence and thuggery directed towards our Police Force is totally unacceptable.

6 Policemen were injured yesterday

62 Policemen were injured last Weekend along with two Police horses.

Sparklefizz Sun 14-Jun-20 10:13:30

vegansrock So they weren't really racists then sparklefizz?

I have no idea. I am just saying that a lot of thugs who want a fight will jump on any bandwagon that's going.

25Avalon Sun 14-Jun-20 10:07:05

So the police weren’t under attack when bicycles and bollards were chucked at them during the BML protests last week? In times of social distancing no gatherings should be allowed to take place so one lot get away with it and then another lot wade in the following week some of whom genuinely want to protect memorials etc and some who were just spoiling for a fight. Law and order needs to be applied to all. I foresaw there would be action in response to statues being defaced or destroyed whilst the police did nothing. Apply the law to all of them.

Anniebach Sun 14-Jun-20 09:57:19

A 28 year old man from Essex has been arrested for urinating
next to the memorial of P.C. Palmer

Davidhs Sun 14-Jun-20 09:56:20

The reality is in any disorder there are male or female, black or white that get aggressive and take it out on the police, it might be BLM, animal rights, anti abortion and a long list of other issues. Trouble makers are always labeled Rent a Mob quite often demonstrators are bussed in I doubt any are actually paid, they are certainly idiots that don’t like the police.

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 09:31:16

It's always useful to have a pool of thugs like that, as Mosley and Roehm found out.

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:24:19

So they weren't really racists then sparklefizz?

growstuff Sun 14-Jun-20 09:20:21

Unfortunaetly, I can believe it. Racism and xenophobia weren't born overnight.

Sparklefizz Sun 14-Jun-20 09:19:43

There have always been people wanting to cause fights and trouble and attacking the police. Teddyboys, Mods and Rockers, etc back in the day. They jump onto a cause. Doesn't matter if they truly support it. They were Rent-a-Mob.

My ex husband was a police officer in the 60s through to the 90s. I know what he had to deal with.

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:12:09

I can't believe people are defending this mob.sick.

vegansrock Sun 14-Jun-20 09:02:39

do two wrongs make a right?