Institutional racism in the police?

If the women were left in the park alone about midnight Friday , 36 hours later they were reported because of concerns they were not answering their phones, that was the day their
bodies were found.

They were in the park after midnight on Friday. The family reported they hadn't returned home or been in contact on the Saturday and I believe did this more than once. On Sunday lunchtime they went to search themselves.

I am surprised the family didn’t search on the Saturday and I don’t think the police were at fault with the time, they were not youngsters . They must get many, many calls, - ‘my husband hasn’t come home’, ‘my wife hasn’t come home’ , the
call centre note the ages etc ,

Great Anniebach blame a grieving family.
They knew the women and probably suspected that something had happened to them as they weren't the sort to stay out or not contact the family. They relied on the police to check they hadn't been attacked. But you are probably right they shouldn't have relied on the police after all they are black.

I read ( yes, maybe true or untrue) that the sisters stayed in the park after midnight, when the guests had all gone home.
The family reported them missing on the Sat evening.
They were found by family/friends on Sunday lunchtime when they went back to the place in the park ( country park not a small city park) where the party was held.
I cannot see that the police did anything at all wrong in not mounting an earlier search, it’s just police procedure.
I am surprised though, that the boyfriend of one of the sisters left it so late to look for her himself, unless he was used to her long absences.

They were reported missing on the Saturday (no details any where on time) but
Police say phone calls to the two women went unanswered from about 2.30am.
These women were alone in an open area and shortly after they were left there were uncontactable. They didn't arrive home. It's fairly obvious something had happened to them. They fitted the missing persons categoryof being at risk. Two women in an open park late at night.

Blaming the family again lemon they knew the women's habits. Would you want to find the body of anyone never mind a girlfriend?

Do calm down trisher....nobody is blaming anyone.I would hope that my boyfriend would search for me the very next day, that’s all.He mustn’t have been at the birthday party or surely he wouldn’t have left her there.It’s a strange case.

Perfectly calm thank you. Just astonished at all this victim blaming. There were only about 10 people at the party so no idea who was there. It's irrelevant anyway. 2 women left alone in a park and uncontactable afterwards. They fitted the missing person's category of at risk.

I suppose the family were naive to think the police would bother with them. And then people wonder why black people don't trust the police.

The family were out searching, Annie. The boyfriend of one of them found both bodies and the weapon used.

I don’t understand why you are trying to victim-blame these poor women.

Just asking a question and not putting any blame anywhere only I wonder why the two sisters decided to stay on in the park alone especially after midnight. I know adults can do as they please but to be in an environment as a park where it would be dark and possibly isolated even more so considering we are still in sort of lockdown it is scary to think they thought they would be safe as anyone could have been lurking about. Of course they should not have been killed and it is tragic only sometimes it is a good idea to take responsible precautions when out and about.
There is a notorious park about 20 minutes from where I live and there has been three attacks on women in there late at night. Why anyone wants to walk through the park over midnight and early hours of the morning I don't know. I would not do it myself, in fact the park near me I would not even use it in the light of day never mind night.
Do hope they find who done it.

trisher you are determined to use this tragedy to strengthen
your own beliefs, you refuse to discuss it , any views put forward which are calm and which questions some reports you scream’rasist’.

Two women at a park party who chose to remain in the park
after their fellow party goers have left were surely strong,
independent woman not vulnerable and I do question why
if worried did the boyfriend wait until Sunday to search.

It isn’t ‘victim blaming’ to wonder about certain aspects of this case.It will all come out when the police find the murderer.

I’m trying to work out the timeline as there’s not been much reporting of this case by the media, which I do find strange, as usually a case such as this would receive a lot of media attention.
I do wonder why the ladies didn’t leave the park with their friends, but that isn’t in any way blaming them as the perpetrator is the guilty one, not the victims. I wonder if they knew their attacker or attackers. Murder victims often do. Surely the police should be advising the public in the area to be careful, because a dangerous murderer is at large. The two police officers who posed with the bodies are beneath contempt. Nonetheless it is not normal police practice to search for missing adults for some time. I don’t think the women would be considered vulnerable. They were adults, they were together, and and they were independent. They would have been expected to resurface, a double murder, which is highly unusual, would not have been expected. Other than the two reprehensible officers, I don’t think racism played a part in all this.

Trisher I can’t understand why you’re claiming the women were at risk. They were mature women and sisters. They’d had a small party in a large country park. It’s Friday night/Saturday morning. Do you have any idea how many calls the police get on those days in that period of time? The police don’t start searching for missing adults that soon. As for the family finding them - there have been missing/murdered children found by family members.

As others have said you are determined to put this down to racism and I don’t believe it is.

Maddyone. Listen to the mother talk on radio 2 lunchtime Monday. She makes a comment about the media.

It was reported that people gradually left throughout the evening and by about 12.30am on Saturday only the two sisters remained. The party was to celebrate the birthday of one of the sisters. If it was my birthday party, I would wait until everyone had gone home before I left.

The timing has been given by others on this thread a few times,

It was two women missing. You are not correct in thinking its not normal police practice to search for missing adults for some time.

This is a quote from Gov.UK

You do not have to wait 24 hours before contacting the police
The police may ask you:
for their photo
details of their friends or relatives
details of places the person often visits
whether they had a medical condition
for a sample of their DNA, for example from a toothbrush
With a relative’s permission, they may also ask to search the person’s home

The person will be recorded as missing and their details made available to other UK police forces within 48 hours

The family were worried about them and repeatedly tried to ring them both.

So two women left alone in a country park who are not contactable an hour after they were left there and who don't return home are not classed as being at risk. Oh come on ! It's pathetic the lengths some will go to to try desperately to prove there is no racism involved.
maddyone the women were dancing with lights and there is an account that says the police think the lights might have attracted someone.
It was a warm night after a very hot day. Maybe the two sisters just wanted a quiet chat after the party and were packing up before they walked home together.

Two women who decided to stay in the park together. Carry on trisher.

The murder of these two young women is a heinous crime, currently unsolved. All of us feel deeply for the mother who has behaved with such dignity in her darkest hour and hope that everything is thrown at the investigation to find answers.
The disgusting act of the two police officers is despicable in so many ways not least that it tarnishes the reputation of the majority of good police officers who are currently struggling to uphold the law in a climate of police bashing.

tickingbird you may not believe it is racist. The mother believes it is and I prefer to believe her. I think possibly she has a great deal more experience than you have.

trisher.... Because this lady believes so doesn’t make it true.
She is a grief stricken mother.
Rushing to think everything is a racist crime and the police call centre who handled this missing persons case were deliberately racist in not searching right away is conjecture on anybody’s part.
The police no doubt wished they had searched right away as this has turned out, but if they gave it the same priority as any similar report, then they're not to blame.A double murder like this is rare.

maddy you are right, this silence on the crime is unusual, which gives me to think that the police may well know who did it, or at least suspect somebody,(evidence and proving it are necessary) and that takes longer.We shall see!

I was wondering about that too lemon; strangely quiet.

WOODMOUSE I find it odd that the two women had been left alone in the park by 12:30 am. The middle of the night in a country park in the dark?
Probably someone will jump on me and tell me I'm being ridiculous, that women are as capable as men, but I wonder why none of the men stayed with them to make sure they got home safely.

Perhaps I'm just old- fashioned in my views.