Leavers. Were you absolutely clear that a no deal Brexit would mean job losses?

Agreed, but there are still EU citizens in the UK and few people want to do the low paying jobs anyway.

Many people said before the referendum that one outcome of Brexit would be deregulation of workers' rights, but apparently it was all Project Fear. Give it time!

PS. 73 workers on a farm in Malvern have just tested positive for Covid-19, so I'm sure the farm has plenty of vacancies.

Are Leavers still happy with the prospect of more job losses in addition to the enormous number lost due to Covid19?

recent polls indicate that 60% now don't want Brexit - and many of the 40% are now not sure... so it seems the answer is no.

Even months ago, only 35% said they still wanted to leave- I bet it is even less now we are heading for No Deal and the massive issues which are no longer 'project fear' but 'project fact on steroids'.

If you wish hard enough biba70!
Who trusts polls anyway?
They said Brexit wouldn’t happen! Remember David Dimblebey’s face in the early hours after the referendum? That’s how much of a shock it was.

So what are you looking forward to Urmstongran? Please share.

I’m not going into all that anymore growstuff! It won’t amount to a hill of beans now. A couple of years ago I posted fulsomely on my reasons for voting Leave and the hopes and expectations that such a decision would deliver.

Perhaps go back over the archives and trawl through some of them if you’re really interested?

I don't see the point in the OP's post

All I was trying to do, oopsminty was to test the truth of Leadsom's assertion that Leave voters knew, (before the referendum ?) that jobs would be lost if there was a no deal.

I wasn't intending to go any further than that. It's up to other posters if they want to wander from the OP.

'A couple of years ago I posted fulsomely on my reasons for voting Leave and the hopes and expectations that such a decision would deliver.'

a couple of years ago was another world - when promises were made and none of them have been fulfilled. We were promised tons of money for the NHS, a great fast and easy deal, no issues with borders and tarifs - and it was all before the disaster of Covid19.

Do you believe now that those hopes and expectations will come to fruition? A large proportion of those who voted Leave, and Conservative- on promises made, now have come to their sense and realise they have been taken for a big ride- and many have lost loved ones in terrible circumstances, partly due to terrible mismanagement of the situation.

MaizieD

^I don't see the point in the OP's post^

All I was trying to do, oopsminty was to test the truth of Leadsom's assertion that Leave voters knew, (before the referendum ?) that jobs would be lost if there was a no deal.

I wasn't intending to go any further than that. It's up to other posters if they want to wander from the OP.

Fair enough, MaizieD

senses! Why is there no correct function on this site?

I haven’t changed my mind about Brexit.
It’s only just taking shape! 3 years of prevarication.

Now Boris has an 80 seat majority, Rishi Sunak (a Leaver) instead of Philip Hammond (a Remainer) in the Treasury, a new man in charge of the BoE and the transition has not been extended (although the EU hoped it would be) we are finally on our way. Which pleases me, but not others I concede. But we all had a vote and this was the result!

This was indeed the result then - what was it Gove said about Democracy and changing your mind. The question was not about whether you have changed your mind- but whether you now still believe promises made will materialise, in the NOW and current situation.

Looking forward to the 20 acre lorry park in Kent, are you, Ug?

This thread tells you why it will be needed:

twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1282033376397008896

(If you don't want to open the link I'll copy and paste it all on here)

Grayling is not happy about it - how ridiculous.

Jacob Rees-Mogg certainly warned voters that it would be many years before we were better off, but that was better than being “vassal” state

It seems such a long time ago and but a drop in the ocean of problems to follow a worldwide pandemic. Why ruminate on the past?

Why ruminate on the past?

Because we are being lied to about the past. We need to hold onto the truth.

December 2019, a mere seven months ago, the great British public delivered a resounding blow to remainers who claimed that 2016 voters had changed their minds or died. Obviously not the case.
All the leave voters that I know were aware that there would be job losses and job gains just as in any big shift. Just as the virus is likely to damage the hospitality industry for some time there will be entrepreneurs cashing in on alternative ways of life, shields, masks, temporary dining booths, screens for shops, business communications, differing public transport and much more.

I agree with everything you said QuizQueen.

If you think about it we have actually voted three times to leave the EU .

First there was the referendum.
Then Nigel Farage’s Brexit party did extraordinarily well despite the party only being in existence a matter of weeks.
Then we had the General Election, won on Boris’s Get Brexit Done mantra.

Three times folks!

NOW do you believe we wanted to leave or shall we have a fourth vote to convince the remainers ?

I wouldn’t mind if it was just the crazies who wanted Brexit who would pay for it but they are dragging the rest of us down with them.

(Yawn) I know that JenniferEccles. You haven't answered the question. Did you know or care about the jobs which would be lost?

So Peardrop thank you for admitting that Leave voters knew jobs would be lost. I must admit I'm a bit confused because I'm sure I remember them saying that "foreigners" were taking "our" jobs.

Ah well!

So which jobs did Leave voters think would be lost? What were the newly unemployed expected to do? What kind of new jobs did they see being created?

Davidhs

Jacob Rees-Mogg certainly warned voters that it would be many years before we were better off, but that was better than being “vassal” state

In what way a "vassal" state? Rees-Mogg certainly stands to make a lot of money out of Brexit. So do a handful of other people, but of course in a so-called democracy they didn't to "buy" votes to get their way.

How did he think those who would lose their jobs would actually live? Or didn't he care?