Lazy, lazy Boris

Yes, growstuff---and ??

Trump and Johnson. Two men who deeply wanted the Top Job but don't want the responsibility that goes with it. It's the perfect storm.

growstuff

And you were a nurse?

I'm really not sure how EV managed to cope with working with all those silly people with their self inflicted illnesses...

Sorry, EV, but you have said some absurd things..

It does get tedious Sussexborn----boring too because you know exactly who's going to be in the running on here. Soooo
predictable ! Empty vessels and all that-------

Nasty and off the point Sussexborn. My criticism of Johnson is based on his ineptitude, his being unfit for the job, his slobbish, careless, lying ways, and nothing to do with his political party. Covid19 goes beyond politics, and if Corbyn had made such a hash of it as Johnson has, I can assure you I would be just as critical.

EllanVannin

So at this stage, can you think of anyone who would do a better job given that this virus is an unknown quantity in how it strikes ?

Lots of people did a better job with as much information as we had, EV. As you would find out if you used your google fingers.

More tedious Boris bashing! Is this going to go on for the next four years?

Nope. It won't go on for four years because he'll be out on his ear long before then.

Erm, self-inflicted illnesses ? It wasn't me who said that. MaizieD.

Saying that I'm absurd in what I say doesn't exactly do you any favours either.

Who will do better in power then MaizieD ?

Tell you what, EV. Let's turn your question about 'Why did we have so many deaths' around.

What is so different about the British population that we managed to achieve a not quite world beating number of deaths, given that we had the same information as other countries, when other countries didn't?

Covid19 goes beyond politics just what I said, GillT57 and way beyond one person who just happens to be the current PM. This crisis goes way beyond one person who just happens to be PM, way beyond one party which happens to be in power. Let's judge the two latter, PM and party, by the way in which they pull us out if it.

Actually, although Boris didn't call for an early enough lockdown, he did still follow the scientific advice when it advised following a plan for herd immunity. I felt he had reason to delay lockdown for as long as possible because the British public weren't going to take it for more than a few months, as has been demonstrated.

Vallance doesn't want anyone going out anywhere, and that's how it should remain if we don't want to see or hear of any more cases. He wishes people to stay at home. Some hope, eh ?
What would the reaction be to that ?

Also Sir Patrick is against people returning to work and to remain working from home ?

17:30MaizieD

More tedious Boris bashing! Is this going to go on for the next four years?

Nope. It won't go on for four years because he'll be out on his ear long before then.

Who will be in his place then MaizieD?

Still waiting to find out what Starmer does all week as well. I expect you can't answer that can you, naff all probably or a few knee bends.

So MaizieD, because you can't answer my questions you try the reverse tactic----sorry but it doesn't work with me. I asked you the questions first !

Why did all those people die ?
Who would you replace Boris with ?

You are a hoot, Firecracker. Why don’t you write to Starmer yourself and ask him what he does all week?

EllanVannin

So MaizieD, because you can't answer my questions you try the reverse tactic----sorry but it doesn't work with me. I asked you the questions first !

I can answer your question, I've answered it several times over the past few weeks and so have other people. You're just refusing to accept it and wittering on about people being responsible for themselves.

So, conversation at an end as far as I'm concerned.

08:54MaizieD

Firecracker123

Starmer has nothing else to do all week but prepare for PMQs lol.

He does a damn sight more that Johnson, then, who is never prepared for PMQs.

My question was to MaizieD seeing as she thinks Starmer does more than Boris, a question she is unable to answer it seems.

Parsley3

You are a hoot, Firecracker. Why don’t you write to Starmer yourself and ask him what he does all week?

S/he is, isn't s/he.

Ellianne:: I think the British public were adhering to lockdown perfectly well until a certain Dominic Cummings made people realise that rules were there to be broken.

"We're following the science" was nothing but a pass-the-buck blame-shifting mantra.

For a start, anyone who uses the phrase "the science" as Prof Brian Cox says, knows nothing about science.

Unfortunately decisions were made because of politics, not informed, balanced scientific judgement, but the likes of Chris Witty and Patrick Vallance make good scapegoats.

Countries all over the world had access to "the science" but most made better judgments because their politicians prioritised saving lives, not saving their own political careers..

Sorry, that was fir MayBee

MaizieD I agree with EllanVannin you can't answer my question or hers and you are deflecting.

Some posters on the Boris/Conservative bashing threads are still very angry and bitter over losing the EU referendum, the Corbyn fiasco, the defeat of Jo Swinson losing her seat. Boris's stomping 80 seat majority win. Will they ever get over it, I doubt it.

I can assure you that, if Johnson had turned out to be a brilliant leader during this pandemic I would have forgiven him for everything he had done previously. But he hasn’t been and it’s totally beyond me how anyone can look at the useless people we have in government and think they’re doing a good job. Yvette Cooper questioning Patel yesterday about immigration figures is a case in point. And half of the cabinet have, at one time or another been sacked for misdoings. I think Johnsons been sacked several times. The only other people I can think of that lose a job because they’ve done it so badly and then walk into an even better job are football managers.