Where's the P.M.? Shouldn't he be in view, not hiding away ?

Firecracker thinks that the farmer who was furious at Johnson climbing a fence onto his land without permission to pitch a tent, and lighting a campfire is " . . probably an SNP plonker with an agenda." but he is more probably a farmer with stock and/or crops who is aware of the potential results of lighting random fires in August.

Why did anyone think that it was permissable or even advisable to camp wild without permission just because it was Scotland and not Surrey? There are plenty of recognised camping and caravan sites in Scotland, many of them in remote picturesque places. Where there isn't one, it is a common courtesy to call on a landowner to ask whether it is OK - did no-one do that?

I doubt whether Gavin Williamson has any idea which direction to in

p**s in

Did no-one even know that it is a common courtesy to ask permission to camp on private land? Did no-one ask because it is all right to pitch your tent wherever you wish in England or Wales?

Was it because no-one checked up on the position and the custom in Scotland? - if that was the reason, there was perhaps good reason that the Scottish farmer could be an SNP with an agenda! It might even turn him into one.

Boris Johnson doesn't do detail Elegran

There is only one reason why Gavin Williamson has not been sacked yet- they have to keep him as sacrificial goat for later.

Ho many utterly useless ministers do this government need as sacrificial goats?

Quite apart from Gavin Williamson, they've already got Priti Patel, Matt Hancock and Chris Grayling (is he still a minister? or does it matter?, I'm sure he could be blamed for something)

How many of these useless people?

photo of Johnson with 28 year old violinist.

Is it possible he thought the land where he pitched the tent belonged to the cottage?

How old is that picture of the PM and a violinist and what proof is it he had an affair with her?

Given his track record I’m not saying he didn’t, just that the photo proves nothing.

He looks a bit older in his more recent photo.

If he had to climb over a fence it must have been obvious that it didn't belong to the cottage.

They didn't have to climb over the fence, if you read the article properly, there was a gate which according to the ever truthful DM, they chose not to use!!!

Isn't it amazing that everyone seems to DEFINITELY KNOW that every bit of tittle tattle is true beyond doubt! Its jbeyond ridiculous,

Jabberwok Everyone is free to interpret the various contradictory reports as they wish, and to have fun.

08:19Elegran

Jabberwok Everyone is free to interpret the various contradictory reports as they wish, and to have fun.

That's what I was doing with the SNP plonker farmer with an agenda but you didn't seem to like that did you. Seems its only the Conservative party that you can ridicule.

I posted that if one thing was true, then something else must have been obvious. We know nothing about the farmer's political affiliations, which was what was being assumed was the reason he complained about trespassing on his land. Nothing to do with believing every bit of title-tattle.

Everyone is free to interpret the various contradictory reports as they wish, and to have fun.
Exactly Elegran, we do have to lighten up a bit with all this gloomy news and dreary weather going on!
My turn again now, if you look at the wooden dining chairs by the fence they are the exact same ones from the cottage shown on the rental pages. So it was definitely intentional to climb to the other side. I've a feeling it was the security chaps, I can't really see Boris lugging chairs out from the cottage and over the fence?

I believe that even travelling people, who like to make camp where they choose, are aware that a closed gate (if this one was closed) makes them liable to a charge of trespass on private land, which is one of the reasons country people always close a gate into somewhere they don't want tents or caravans.

The farmer has no reason to lie. He said the people using the tent used two dining chairs from the house to climb over the fence onto his land, rather than use the gate. They didn't ask permission to put the tent or, more importantly, didn't ask permission to light a camp fire.
It's shoddy isn't it. The Johnson team appear to have behaved like so many other staycation holiday makers, with disregard for the countryside. At least, someone took the tent down, rather than simply abandon it for the farmer to deal with as so many people have in the Lake District.

If the field does go with the rental of the cottage, the rental pages will state that. I can't be bothered looking to find out, I should be under a hot shower by now. I have things to do.

Goodness me!?The interest in this tent/chairs goes on, it’s
Probably more exciting to have a hot shower Elegran anyway.
I should think they only went to Scotland as a nod to solidarity with it, and will choose Cornwall next time ( fab scenery and no midges.)Possibly no angry farmers enjoying their five minutes of fame either.?

anyone joining me- let's take 2 chairs and a tent and go camping in the garden of those who think it was all fine and dandy- oh and bring some wood too, for a nice big fire ;). I'll bring the wine ;)

Ok, but only if it is lemongrove's suggestion of Cornwall biba. The farmers aren't too angry there and the Cornish fishermen would welcome Boris with open arms! Some freshly caught crab or lobster would be nice. By the way, I only drink French wine. Now there's a conundrum.

Can we come to yours biba are Swiss farmers all still carrying guns these days?