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Trump taken to hospital

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Katek Fri 02-Oct-20 22:28:14

That was quick......wonder what’s going on?

phoenix Sat 03-Oct-20 15:32:07

Hope they do some psychiatric tests while he's there.

I'm still thinking this is some sort of ploy or stunt. Sorry.

lemongrove Sat 03-Oct-20 15:33:04

Yes Lucca I do see that, but reason tells us several things,
First, that Trump will be very dismayed to have any illness at all, given he glories in his strength and ‘looks’ and at this stage of the proceedings with the election looming, nobody wants to vote for a weak/sick person for President.Second, that given the amount of people around Trump, inventing a case of Covid would be sure to be leaked, it simply wouldn't work.
There are posters on this thread who still doubt that Johnson
Was really sick or in the ICU unit despite the facts.
People want it to be lies, that’s the long and the short of it,
Or they are gullible and believe all the tosh on social media.

lemongrove Sat 03-Oct-20 15:36:25

I didn’t want Johnson to lead the Conservative Party or Trump to win last time around ( or this!) but you have to keep your feet on the ground about things, and not rush to disbelieve medical outcomes because you dislike/ distrust certain politicians.

rowyn Sat 03-Oct-20 15:52:26

Are we sure its not a^mental ^hospital??!!

maddyone Sat 03-Oct-20 15:53:40

I agree lemon, saying BJ or DT didn’t have/got Coronavirus is the fake news. It’s beyond belief that adults actually believe that these things wouldn’t be leaked if they were made up or fake news. It doesn’t say much for our education system if adults are unable to look at these events critically and reason through the probability of such things being fake news.

In fact I believe this is the last thing either of them wanted. They both crave power and to be seen as weak through illness isn’t on their agenda.

Mistyfluff8 Sat 03-Oct-20 15:54:01

He looked white and drawn walking to the helicopter .Trying an experimental drug .Showed him and his staff who have it giving hugs not social distancing what did he expectb

Keffie12 Sat 03-Oct-20 15:59:53

My conmiserations to the virus, is all I have to say. The way he has treated his country his people, the world etc i have no feelings on it. Just disdain I think.

PollyDolly Sat 03-Oct-20 16:03:21

I have to wonder if DT is actually in denial at being diagnosed positive for Covid 19! After all, at the prospect of losing the presidential election he said " we're not having that" ! And in the very early days of the virus didn't he deny that there was one??

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 16:14:08

Apparently the Trump camp are in disarray as their electioneering was concentrating on the myth that the virus was not so infectious as generally thought and that it was reducing considerably throughout the USA, neither of which of course is true.

Trump’s cult followers of course will be willing to believe anything put out by him, but many who were perhaps wavering will begin to wake up to what the doctors are saying.

Another interesting point is that Trump had prevented the medical profession from giving out scientific fact on the media and instead had employed a doctor who was not an epidemiologist but was willing to go along with the Trump lies and misinformation.

This will surely now be shot to pieces.

Devorgilla Sat 03-Oct-20 16:20:23

In such circumstances I think you have to separate the man from the office. I didn't, and don't, want him to be President but nor do I want him to die of this horrendous disease which any of us could get. It does not surprise me that he walked to the helicopter, and car on arrival. People in his position have to put forward a positive image for the nation. Morale can depend on it. I did notice that when he arrived at the hospital the cars were strategically parked to shield and provide the shortest distance.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 16:22:17

Watching CNN.

Doctors to make a statement but are apparently being prevented from saying anything not approved of by the WH.

I assume they won’t be prepared to lie?

phoenix Sat 03-Oct-20 16:25:06

Someone in his camp stated that this proves that even if you follow (quote) "the protocol" you are still not safe.

Trump did not follow the "protocol" ! Didn't wear a mask, continued shaking hands etc.

Perhaps if he and his staff had followed it, there might be fewer cases in the White House.

He's a stupid man, who thinks he's a genius.

GagaJo Sat 03-Oct-20 16:26:32

I think a couple of contradictory things.

1) It's a ploy to get out of facing an election he knows he will lose.

2) It's a ploy to get sympathy votes and avoid the debates.

He may well have Covid. It is no respecter of social position. But nothing we hear will be the whole truth. Whatever the situation, it will be massaged in an attempt to show him in a better light.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 16:31:21

CNN questioning the time line, just as we have done, as it has happened very very quickly.

The question is when and what did Trump know, both about staff testing positive with whom he’d spent time and when he would have been most infectious, and when was his last negative test, where he went after he knew he was positive , and who he may have infected.

Ellianne Sat 03-Oct-20 16:34:43

People in his position have to put forward a positive image for the nation. Morale can depend on it.
I agree, Devorgilla*, I remember when Angela Merkel kept swaying and shaking she said it was nothing, just that she needed some water. There can be no signs of weakness for these leaders. Film real of the Queen's father turning out for work when in the advanced stages of lung cancer also brings home how important it is for anyone in charge to be seen as indestructible.

GagaJo Sat 03-Oct-20 16:42:58

Nothing wrong with him according to his doctors. Makes you wonder why he's costing the US tax payer so much.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 16:44:42

Very upbeat message. Very Trumpian in tone.

suziewoozie Sat 03-Oct-20 16:44:45

Oh the irony - posts saying I am lying stay and I’m deleted because I mocked the guidelines which mean telling someone to grow up is much much worse. I wonder who reported me????????????????

AGAA4 Sat 03-Oct-20 16:50:18

I realise Trump's behaviour will make people cynical but I do think he has covid. Only a few days ago he was deriding Biden for wearing a mask and also made a speech to say the virus is behind them now.
I think being infected now will have given him a shock. He was arrogant and thought he couldn't get it.
Despite the way he behaves I hope he pulls through.

GagaJo Sat 03-Oct-20 16:54:35

Doctors say his breathing, liver and heart function are normal. So WTH is he in hospital?

Callistemon Sat 03-Oct-20 16:56:51

Heathcliff23 I wish you a good recovery. Take care, I hope you have someone to look after you when you get home.

varian Sat 03-Oct-20 16:59:02

We must all hope he gets better - in so many ways

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 17:01:35

CNN saying that the doctors being invasive throws everything else into question. Huge credibility problem.

72 hrs ago diagnosed, which means that Trump went on an electioneering infecting everyone in the full knowledge.

Callistemon Sat 03-Oct-20 17:02:47

What have I missed?

I've been busy making masks, a rather smart tartan one for DH, a nod to his Scottish heritage.

Do you think Donald would like one? I have some McLeod tartan fabric, bought to make Christmas bunting but not used.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 03-Oct-20 17:06:01

Not invasive!! Evasive!!