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Boris' 'oven ready' deal becomes 'No Deal'

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grannyactivist Fri 16-Oct-20 12:20:43

Can I ask what the GN leave voters think about this without the thread descending into vitriol please?

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:30:13

No disrespect to the duck, WW but they'll just be marketed as English farmed duck stating the area of provenance.

Aylesbury Ducks are a rare breed and can only be produced and sold in Aylesbury.

Same as Melton Mowbray pork pies.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:33:27

Which farm is it? Only I found a farm on line selling Aylesbury duck and nothing about a 20 mile radius?

GillT57 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:34:59

Can I just correct the erronous assumption that all of us who voted remain are on the 'far left'? Many, many established and respected Tory MPs were remain supporters and were ultimately sacked for their belief in democracy and for representing their constituents beliefs, so you can drop that nonsense for a start. All I have read so far from Brexit supporters is a rather feeble 'it won't be too bad' response, or a pathetic cry for us to all buy 'British'. I haven't read any posts extolling the bright future we were all promised when we left the EU, and can I just point out, YET AGAIN, that we cannot just survive by shopping in a patriotic manner, we have never, and can never be self sufficient in food. Oh, and paddyanne a quick reminder that an awful lot of us here in England did not vote for this, so please stop blaming us.

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:37:54

You could try watching the programme on iPlayer, WW then you might find the answers you're looking for.

Ilovecheese Sat 17-Oct-20 19:38:03

Melton Mowbray pies can only be marketed as such if they are produced in Melton Mowbray, but they can be sold anywhere. You don't have to travel to Melton Mowbray to buy one.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:41:53

To be frank I think it is false information. I think ilovecheese is correct. That it must be produced in the area, like champagne but sold anywhere.

There are thousands of products we could name.

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:43:08

So the man lied on TV?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:44:01

Well frankly yes if it is as ug reported it.

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:45:16

aylesbury.duckfarm.co.uk/richard/waller/home>

It doesn't mention the legislation but then why should it?

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:45:53

I mean if I can go online this minute and buy Aylesbury prepared duck then what is he saying?

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:45:57

Just watch the programme, WW

Oldbat1 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:46:26

What a total and utter shambles! Thank goodness I am Scottish - that at least gives me some hope for the future.

Sparkling Sat 17-Oct-20 19:47:03

Well said LauraNoder, a lot of people are only safe with what they know, cant bear change of any sort. We are resilient people, we will be able to manage are own affairs. Life is all about change and calculated risks, living without Brussels interference will be worth it. I have faith in my countrymen, the ones that voted leave, the people that were not listened to.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:47:10

I’m watching “The Crown” before the next series comes out at the moment.

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:48:29

Whitewavemark2

I mean if I can go online this minute and buy Aylesbury prepared duck then what is he saying?

It means that unless it is bred and produced on his farm it is 'English White Farmed Duck' which is often called Aylesbury Duck but is not the genuine rare breed.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 19:50:56

What is interesting is that all the foods that are being produced in all the areas of the U.K. like Aylesbury ducks, Cornish Pasties Melton Mowbray pies etc will brexiters be scrambling to get rid of the rules governing the production within a geographical area in order to be held out for sale as a particular product?

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 19:57:05

Who knows, WW

growstuff Sat 17-Oct-20 20:41:08

I'm a bit baffled. It would appear that there's only one producer of genuine Aylesbury ducks in the country. On the producer's website is stated, "We sell direct to the general public via farm gate sales and several farmers' markets in London". It doesn't state anywhere that the ducks can only be sold within 20 miles of Aylesbury.

It seems somewhat OTT to wreck a whole economy over ducks anyway. hmm

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 20:46:32

growstuff

I'm a bit baffled. It would appear that there's only one producer of genuine Aylesbury ducks in the country. On the producer's website is stated, "We sell direct to the general public via farm gate sales and several farmers' markets in London". It doesn't state anywhere that the ducks can only be sold within 20 miles of Aylesbury.

It seems somewhat OTT to wreck a whole economy over ducks anyway. hmm

That’s what I saw and think.

I simply don’t believe it.

MaizieD Sat 17-Oct-20 20:51:26

Whitewavemark2

growstuff

I'm a bit baffled. It would appear that there's only one producer of genuine Aylesbury ducks in the country. On the producer's website is stated, "We sell direct to the general public via farm gate sales and several farmers' markets in London". It doesn't state anywhere that the ducks can only be sold within 20 miles of Aylesbury.

It seems somewhat OTT to wreck a whole economy over ducks anyway. hmm

That’s what I saw and think.

I simply don’t believe it.

I suppose that we should just be thankful that, in a rather oblique fashion, a Brexit voter may have at last come up with an apparent EU law that they don't like (although not, perhaps, one that particularly affects them..)

Nandalot Sat 17-Oct-20 20:54:31

Merlotgran, I can’t get your link to work. The one I found is the same as Growstuff’s.
aylesbury.duckfarm.co.uk/richard/waller/home
This is the same man as your link and he sells in London. He was on Rick Stein apparently.

Whitewavemark2 Sat 17-Oct-20 20:55:48

Do you mean that they do like?

merlotgran Sat 17-Oct-20 20:58:13

Yes. He can sell in London via his own outlet but he can't sell to somebody else (as a wholesaler) who then retails the product.

Is it really so difficult to understand?

growstuff Sat 17-Oct-20 21:38:19

merlotgran

Yes. He can sell in London via his own outlet but he can't sell to somebody else (as a wholesaler) who then retails the product.

Is it really so difficult to understand?

Well, yes it is. I honestly don't understand. Aylesbury ducks are a breed and I found they can be bought all over the country, but there is only one commercial producer, who's in Chesham.

Why would he want to sell them to a wholesaler? Why can't he? Which law stops him?

growstuff Sat 17-Oct-20 21:41:19

merlotgran

Whitewavemark2

I mean if I can go online this minute and buy Aylesbury prepared duck then what is he saying?

It means that unless it is bred and produced on his farm it is 'English White Farmed Duck' which is often called Aylesbury Duck but is not the genuine rare breed.

But that's not because they're bred near Aylesbury. Apparently most of the white meat ducks (apart from this one farm) are crossbreeds.