Boris' 'oven ready' deal becomes 'No Deal'

Why would he want to sell them to a wholesaler

I didn't say he would.

I don't have any more to add. As my father used to say, 'Some people would happily argue the hind legs off a donkey!'

A rare breed donkey, I hope.

I'm not arguing. I'm genuinely curious because I don't understand the issue. This producer can presumably charge high prices because his ducks are bred near Aylesbury, even though you can buy the same breed of ducks all over the place. What's the problem? And what the heck does it have to do with the EU?

merlotgran

WW Not unless it is being sold as a particular breed of duck that is only produced on that farm.

But that breed of duck is produced on other farms. It sounds like it's in this producer's interests to claim his ducks are the only pure bred ones.

What legislation is involved anyway?

I cant believe that we’re in the middle of a pandemic facing a no deal brexit and we’re discussing ducks and fish.....

Come on Maybe70 we are reclaiming Britain for our ducks and fish. I've been so worried about them. Never mind human rights or anything else I want to know if my duck is a genuine Aylesbury (maybe it can have a blue passport).

with the internal market bill you wont know where any of your food comes from so your Aylebury duck may well come from China!!The rebranding of Scottish produce is underway ,Union flags adorn meat and other produce that is Scottish.May seem petty but Scotland the brand is renowned for quality worldwide .85% of People in Scotland will only by beef for instance that is labelled Scotch Beef,As for our national drink having a butchers apron on it and branded as British Scotch whisky will do massive damage to the industry .
As Whisky alone is 25% of all food and drink exports in the "UK" maybe Bojo and the circus at WM will realise they are cutting off their noses to spite their faces.They wont SELL the hard stuff without its place of origin being visible .ANYONE can make whisky but only Scotland makes Scotch and it earns £60 a SECOND for the UK as its not counted n Scotlands GDP ....go figure that!!

MayBee70

I cant believe that we’re in the middle of a pandemic facing a no deal brexit and we’re discussing ducks and fish.....

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Fish and ducks make a difference from bendy bananas.

Is Chesham 20 miles from London is what I want to know..

Division, division, all is division.

Only a quarter (25%) of Scottish whisky distilleries are actually owned by Scottish companies! In fact, there are only a few large companies behind most of the whisky that you drink.
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Actually - no one voted to leave with no trade agreement because the referendum question did not include any reference to the manner of leaving or what type of trade agreement could be secured.

The referendum question was simply "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?”

Not "if you think the UK should leave the EU, how?" witha list of options.

How the UK left the EU and what type of trade agreement it secures are solely the province of parliament and government.

But people listened to the arguments for and against in the run up to the referendum and the leave camp didn’t tell people there would be no deal.

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

Urmstongran

Only a quarter (25%) of Scottish whisky distilleries are actually owned by Scottish companies! In fact, there are only a few large companies behind most of the whisky that you drink.
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It hardly matters who owns the distilleries, as the main profit goes direct to the Treasury in London in the form of revenue and taxes.

Tax on Scotch Whisky in the UK currently stands at 72%, meaning around £3 in every £4 spent on Scotch Whisky in the UK goes to the HM Treasury in excise and VAT. Per unit of alcohol, Scotch Whisky is taxed more than any other category of alcohol in the UK. For example, tax on Scotch Whisky is 16% more than tax on wine, and per unit of alcohol duty on wine and cider decreases as product strength increases

So if you buy a bottle of cheap Scotch for say £24, the UK government pockets £18, leaving only £6 to run the distillery, buy the barley, yeast etc, provide barrels and bottles and pay the (well paid) distillery workers before there is any profit for the owners.

Its PRODUCED here ,the tax should be paid here ..

As a point of interest ,the Scottish Gin industry is earning almost as much as Whisky...that goes to WM too and doesn't appear on our GDP .

Gin is SO much cheaper to produce.
A huge profit margin. No wonder the producers love it.
Don’t blame them.
Less effort for their profitability!

We've progressed from ducks and fish to ducks, fish and gin! If only GN was involved in the negotiations we might have a deal by Christmas!!!!

Jaberwok

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

I don't suppose that many people thought that no deal was a possibility/probability. Had they been aware that no deal was a possible outcome, they may not have voted to leave.

I see the Tesco boss is warning of fresh food shortage for months in the new year.

Oh joy - on top of everything else we go and do this to ourselves!

The psychologists must be having a field day.

Dinahmo

Jaberwok

They didn't need to, we knew it was a possibility, even a probability. It was fairly obvious bearing in mind the fury it would obviously generate!!

I don't suppose that many people thought that no deal was a possibility/probability. Had they been aware that no deal was a possible outcome, they may not have voted to leave.

It's really weird because I don't recall anybody in the run up to the referendum mentioning the possibility of leaving the EU without a trade deal.

It makes me even more cross that all these prescient folks kept dead quiet about it and voted for me to take a 'risk' that I absolutely didn't want to take.

Got friends in Scotland who produce both gin and single malt- and they are very much Scottish.

UrmstonG 'The referendum question was simply "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?”

Not "if you think the UK should leave the EU, how?" witha list of options.'

so you are saying that al the promises made during the campaign were totally irrelevant? We were promised a Deal, a great Deal, and vast sums for the NHS, and free and easy trade with the EU. What is the point of campaigns in any vote or election then - if people can very clearly and abundantly lie, and lie some more?

BTW- still in Spain enjoy the sunshine and EU rights and freedom- under the radar?

I’m not under any radar. Stop goading me biba.
Others have tried it.
Framilode and varian.
It’s getting boring now.

I’ve explained my situation politely on a few occasions.

I wish you’d all stop trying to get your digs in. What is it with you people?