Jeremy Corbyn suspended from Labour Party

Grany, Gagajo* et al. Are you saying that the Anti-Semitism detailed in the report didn’t exist or “was exaggerated”.

Or are you saying the incidents reported are true and Jeremy Corbyn was prevented from tackling it?

He did express regret Luckygirl
Jewish members of our party and the wider community were right to expect us to deal with it, and I regret that it took longer to deliver that change than it should
I have no doubt that Starmer would have preferred him. to simply accept and keep quiet, but that would mean those who conspired on the right of the party might be forgotten.

Illte watch the video. There was little done about anti-semitic complaints before 2015. When Corbyn was elected a group of people in the LP office wanted a more right wing LP. They ignored complaints and failed to act on many occasions. In 2018 new training and processes were introduced, but it was a completely new experience and apparently wasn't right.
So Corbyn was trying to handle it but there were forces working against him.

Corbyn to start his own party
That could be as popular as Change UK. They died a death.

The trouble is, is that Corbyn has made it just about himself. As Dunt said, all Corbyn and his colleagues had to say was sorry this happened under his watch, but he can’t bring himself to do so. He prefers to act as the victim.

So it did exist and wasn’t exaggerated.

Anyone know what has happened to the Islamophobia in the Tory party?

Mine, and many thousands of others, is that it is a witch hunt.

No, it is not.
Had he accepted the findings, held up his hands and said 'mea culpa, as leader I should have sorted out this problem and I failed', I think everyone would have felt more respect for him. But he cannot accept that and is wriggling like a worm on a hook, still failing to acknowledge what happened on his watch.

regret is nowhere near an apology.

Isn’t there a thread on it ?

Yes, separate issue so there should be a thread.

Actually I know how hard it can be to change a culture within an organisation and I know how what a leader can be undermined.

It’s the “it was exaggerated” that I can’t stomach.

Sexism was tacked well, racism against other minority groups was tacked well. So it could be done.

Why was the will to tackle Anti-Semitism lacking?

There’s only one answer to that I’m afraid.

I am really having a lot of heart-searching at present. I am a (non-religious) jewish member of the Labour Party. Hand on heart I can honestly say that in all my years (first joined in 1961) I have never experienced anything even approaching anti-semitism.
Along with many other LP members, of all religions and none, we have become very sad about the State of Israel's politics over recent years - going so very far to the right. Their leaders attitude to their neighbours, their making second, even third class citizens of Palestinians in Israel has led to us having to oppose them. Not opposing them being Jewish, opposing them for their current politics.

Have also seen far too many excellent socialist, jewish members of the LP being excluded, suspended, investigated just because they opposed the politics of the State of Israel, as they also opposed the politics of many other countries.

Can I now stay in this sad remnant of the Labour Party? I really do not know. Do we stay and fight to try to restore our beloved party from the inside to re-make it again into a socialist one and a force for good - or do I give it up as a bad job and let Starmar and his ilk carry on destroying it?

And actually as a labour party member I want to talk about the anti semitism in the labour party.

How can Starmer be accused of carrying on destroying the
Labour Party ? He has only been leader a few months, Corbyn was leader for five years and lost two general elections, refused
to take party in any debate on brexit,even went on holiday whilst other party leaders were joining in tv debates

Galaxy

And actually as a labour party member I want to talk about the anti semitism in the labour party.

As a Labour Party member I would like to give you examples of me witnessing such anti-semitism, but in all my long years I have never ever experienced such an issue.

But, that does not mean that I reject the EHCR. Definitely not. I accept that it happened. I deeply regret that it happened. I deeply regret the culture that allowed this to happen. I came to accept this issue a couple of years ago after simply not being able to believe it as I had no evidence and still don’t, but I realised that I accept stuff exists even though I have no personal experience and denial is as bad as supporting anti-semitism.

A lesson learned.

@TommyCorbyn

Interesting day ahead I'm sure.

Whatever anyone writes in any report, this man is the furthest thing from a racist as it's possible to be.

I've spent my entire life watching him relentlessly fight every form of racism and oppression across the globe. #IStandwithJeremyCorbyn

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@jeremycorbyn
Used the fund Jeremy and sue them. Make them pay for what they’ve done to you and party. Starmer has completely ignored McNichols/Matthews and PLPs part in this. Which EHRC report alludes too. It’s corruption. Take our party back. Make sure it can never happen again. #WeAreCorbyn

Lots have left Labour Party because of Starmer
No reason to suspend from what Jeremy said it's as what's stated in report, Is Starmer ignoring that bit of report

If this splits the Labour Party it will be a gift to the Conservatives for many years to come.

Antisemitism

twitter.com/kennardmatt/status/1321861137747582980?s=20

To all those condemning Corbyn for the lack of action on anti-semitism
Have you looked at the figures for investigations into allegations before 2015? If not you should do so.
Have you seen what the right wing officials in the party were doing between 2015-2017?
Do you realise the processes that are in place were set up by Corbyn and Jenny Formby? Perhaps they wre not adequate but they were a change and a start. How long does it take to establish something it seems no one else knows much about (such as the staff at Birbeck College)?
Finally whatever your politics it should worry you that a small group of office staff, and a few MPs managed to interfere with the results of the 2017 election, because regardless of the anti-semitism incidents this was a real and concerted attack on democracy and some of those involved are still active in the party.

A small group of office staff and a few MP’s allegedly caused
Labour to lose the 2017/election ?

No, Corbyn lost the election

Illte Yes I am saying antisemitism was greatly exaggerated by the right wing both inside and outside the party and by the media. Ian McNicol general secretary built up backlog to implicate Corbyn he is named in leaked report as working against Jeremy

So all along the right sabotaged the left leadership but tackling these cases when next GS Jenny Formby came along she shifted the backlog in 2018 and Antisemitism was very much reduced 003 so very small amount.

if you are intersted in what is happening and how anti-semitism is being used for political ends watch this man.
www.facebook.com/DoubleDownNews/videos/370041197550268
His mother was a holocaust survivor.

Oddly enough there are few Labour MPs and ex MPs who would disagree with you!

Do you realise the processes that are in place were set up by Corbyn and Jenny Formby?

But that is partly what the EHRC is critiquing. The processes weren't adequate and were subject to political interference, trisher. Are you going to claim that the political interference came from the Right in order to damage the LP?

As far as the Right and the 2019 GE is concerned, I think that its a red herring in this context.

The political interference had been a long standing issue MaizieD it didn't begin with Corbyn. Should it have been stopped? of course it should. The problem is if you have an established and accepted culture it can take years to change it.

It is the 2017 election where marginal seats were denied funding that is important. I don't see how it can be a red herring when the very same people who diverted funds were involved in ignoring anti-semitism complaints.