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A big thank you to those who voted for Brexit

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Dinahmo Thu 07-Jan-21 16:03:15

I've just been reading about the additional charges that people buying goods from the UK are having to pay on purchases arriving in EU countries. So much so that many retailers are no longer selling to people in the EU. The list is long but includes M & S, John Lewis and Fortnums. I buy a variety of things from the UK, including clothing and health supplements. I am no longer able to do this. But it's not just me and other Brits living abroad, it's everybody in the EU.

So, those cheesemakers will have a hard time and I will no longer be able to buy the very good quality cheddar from my local supermarket (which the French like to, not just Brits) because it will be too expensive.

Welshwife Thu 07-Jan-21 16:40:19

Some things you can get from European sites - Amazon has a German site which is available in a number of languages and Marks has a French site which is much more expensive even though it charges no delivery costs.
I see some Cornish fishermen are unable to export to their normal market which has been the EU. I could not exactly see why with that one. I have seen a number of small businesses deciding to no longer deal with U.K. customers because of the paperwork and goods/gifts sent to the EU from U.K. are now subject to duty and vat.

Dinahmo Thu 07-Jan-21 16:59:09

Welshwife Thank you. I have in the past had things sent to friends and then forwarded on. I used to get Adaptil for one of my dogs and it's twice the price here. Luckily, or sadly, I no longer need the Adaptil.

Small businesses all over will find it more difficult and more costly which is a great pity because they are supposed to be the backbone of the UK and other countries I think.

Franbern Fri 08-Jan-21 09:06:16

but................You are not taking into account that three hundred million pounds every week that is going to the NHS now!!!!!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 09:11:08

Franbern

but................You are not taking into account that three hundred million pounds every week that is going to the NHS now!!!!!

No that’s needed to pay for brexit. Brexit is a bottomless pit.

David0205 Fri 08-Jan-21 10:24:13

There are some goods from EU and other countries coming through but eventually VAT and other charges will have to be paid on all personal imports and exports. Some parcel shippers are now stopping cross border movement until the new rules are established. Shipping from outside the EU was difficult and expensive before Brexit, now everything is harder.

Goods from UK retailers will have some problems, because VAT transactions are now with the country of origin, not through the EU reclaim system.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 10:34:43

Well the leave voters leaders LeaveEU have upped sticks and moved to the EU.😄😄😄😄

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 10:38:40

Moderna will be delayed being imported to the U.K. because of Brexit.

varian Fri 08-Jan-21 10:41:06

On Friday, Marks & Spencer became the latest company to warn of the administrative burden and increase in export costs to some countries.

Parcels firm DPD has already suspended some services and there have been warnings from seafood exporters.

One export trade body told the BBC there was a "growing problem and sense of unease" among its members.

Shane Brennan, chief executive of the Cold Chain Federation, which represents chilled transport and storage companies, said the emerging problems have come despite the amount of cross border traffic still being quite low.

"Trade flows are still only about 50% of what we would expect, but even at those levels we are seeing levels of confusion and delays," he told the BBC's Today programme. "The feeling is we are building to quite a significant potential disruption."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55583244

biba70 Fri 08-Jan-21 10:43:10

to be honest Dinahmo, the problem you have highlighted is just a bit of a pain- and really very minor compared to the real severe issues Brexit is throwing up. Honestly!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:44:20

JohnShirleyLtd
@JohnShirleyLtd

So the chaos has begun. Organising even the simplest load to Europe has become an almost impossible task due to the mountain of Tory red tape that was brought in on the 1st of January.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:45:36

Martyn Oates
@bbcmartynoates

"We're stuffed" - Brixham fish merchant Ian Perkes says he's unable to export his fish to France now the new post-Brexit rules and regulation have come into force.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:46:55

Faisal Islam
@faisalislam

unsurprising that agrifood exporters face significant new red tape, checks & delays...Govt chose not to prioritise this frictionless trade, or even having less friction than NZ, so it could gain regulatory freedom from EU rules eg re genetic editing food

BlueBelle Fri 08-Jan-21 11:49:10

Brexit was the spawn of the devil but no one with half a brain could stop it, it grew legs and turncoats like Johnson who was all for the EU before he became PM Cameron for instigated something that didn’t need instigating really do have blood on their hands
It’s the most depressing thing to happen to this country

MaizieD Fri 08-Jan-21 11:51:15

biba70

to be honest Dinahmo, the problem you have highlighted is just a bit of a pain- and really very minor compared to the real severe issues Brexit is throwing up. Honestly!

I'm sure you really don't mean to, but this comment makes you sound like a Leave voter, biba.

From personal inconvenience to business failures every consequence of this idiotic decision and the dreadful 'deal' Johnson clearly hasn't mastered the implications of (not that he particularly cares), is offensive to those who never asked to be put in this position.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:51:54

I suppose every leaver is busy enjoying their sovereignty.

varian Fri 08-Jan-21 11:52:18

The brexit campaign group leave.EU, funded by Aaaron Banks, has moved its HQ out of the UK to ... guess where?

MayBee70 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:54:39

Even though I fought it for 4 years I always felt it needed to to run it’s course because a seed had been sown and it wasn’t going to go away. If only this country could have witnessed 4 years of a Trump presidency before a referendum was held. If it had I think the result would have been different. Especially as the people behind Trump were also behind vote leave.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:58:22

Report on difficulties
www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55583244

biba70 Fri 08-Jan-21 11:58:41

Maizie, I have re-read my post several times- and I just cannot possibly imagine how you could come up with that conclusion. Truly.

Brexit is causing and will cause massive amounts of serious damage to individuals and businesses, and the UK as a whole.

No being able to order 'stuff' like clothes, etc, from abroad, or with increased taxes, sounds like a very minor inconvenience compared to the above. Perhaps what some call 'a First World Problem'.

You know that I am, always was and always will be, remain and pro EU. Very hurtful.

MaizieD Fri 08-Jan-21 13:29:24

Even the Daily Heil isn't looking too happy:

Andrew Trust runs a fish merchants based in Looe, Cornwall.

He told MailOnline: 'I’ve been in the trade all my life and have built a business in the last 21 years successfully supplying fish the UK and European fish trade.

'This came to an abrupt end on Monday because of all the extra red tape, and unviable extra costs involved in what was before a free trade and an easy process.

'Some of my competitors who have decided to give it a go have had lorries stuck in Calais for three days, or worse, had fish rejected and returned because the postcode was next door to its destination address.

'The export trade made up 36% of my business. We are a small merchants, so these extra costs just don’t add up. That said, it means that around 120 tons of fish a year that we would have bought from the local fish markets of Plymouth and Brixham will now potentially not happen.

'As you can imagine, I’m not a happy man.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9121359/British-companies-cross-channel-trade-Brexit-red-tape.html

MaizieD Fri 08-Jan-21 13:32:15

Maizie, I have re-read my post several times- and I just cannot possibly imagine how you could come up with that conclusion. Truly.

I think it's a bit ambiguous, biba. I can see two ways of reading it now. Sorry. Wasn't wanting to upset you.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 08-Jan-21 13:36:08

Have you noticed that the pace of Brexit "bad news" stories is accelerating?

GillT57 Fri 08-Jan-21 13:38:57

Ironically, it seems that even the fishing industry, which was supposedly so important that many others industries were sacrificed to 'save' it, is on its knees. All this for an industry which employs fewer people than Debenhams.

suttonJ Fri 08-Jan-21 13:41:09

UG....I await your post with interest. I remember how keen you have been on telling us of the positives of Brexit.