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varian Fri 12-Mar-21 18:57:21

The damage done by the madness of brexit is turning out to be even worse than we feared.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/brexit-eu-trade-costs-red-tape-b1816552.html

seamstress Fri 19-Mar-21 09:46:19

She sounds very certain that "the EU will still be world beating with death rates" - yahboo sucks playground chanting - we're better than you, no doubt she will be delighted if that happened and she can add it to other people's pipes. Hopefully with more lockdowns which are similar to the one we've had since December - they will avoid that, and as the vaccine pause has stopped, I am sure they will up their game and avoid British death rates, likewise I am hoping that our possible vaccine pause will not be for long. Lets hope all countries catch up.

Smileless2012 Fri 19-Mar-21 09:57:26

How do you know what may or may not "delight" Firecracker or any other poster for that matter seamstress?

You've posted that she's wishing higher deaths on other countries which she hasn't, and have just posted "no doubt she will be delighted if that happened".

You need to apologise.

Firecracker123 Fri 19-Mar-21 10:34:33

Thanks Smileless

I'm not wishing extra deaths on any country I hope they all get their vaccination programmes going and we can all get back to normal life ASAP. I'm just sick and tried of people running down the UK at every opportunity and some who claim they love the UK actually seem delighted that we the UK have a high death rate and can't cope with any criticism of the EU. Some seem to actually hate their own country.

vegansrock Fri 19-Mar-21 10:36:30

Far from it, let’s own up to mistakes and learn from them. Let’s hope every one catches up with vaccines .

MaizieD Fri 19-Mar-21 10:51:00

I'm just sick and tried of people running down the UK at every opportunity and some who claim they love the UK actually seem delighted that we the UK have a high death rate and can't cope with any criticism of the EU. Some seem to actually hate their own country.

If anyone needs to apologise I think it's the person who wrote this.

I am sick and tired of the assumption that anyone who criticises our government hates our country. I think the boot is entirely on the other foot. These assumptions are just as insulting as the ones already noted.

I'm watching the country I love degenerate into a second rate banana republic while the Brexiter 'patriots' cheer every downward lurch. And I'm supposed to be supporting every downward move because it's my country? That's fascism...

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 11:12:31

It is all of a piece isn’t it?

For “patriotism” read uncritical support.

If you feel critical enough to protest a perceived injustice perpetrated by the government they will now ensure your silence (too noisy) and compliance (too annoying) by the new Bill passing through without a moments glance by the “patriots”.

Lots of patriots in the USA as well, attached to the white supremacist movement.

I guess this is the new democracy.

Funny sort of democracy.

Firecracker123 Fri 19-Mar-21 12:44:47

Ha ha ha I apologise to no one and bend the knee for no one although I would for UK veterans.

And as for calling the UK a second rate banana republic, ha ha ha how ridiculous, are you for real. ????

I'm falling about laughing here now because I love my country and I am patriotic its being inferred I'm a white supremacist. How ridiculous and anyway as you don't know what colour I am I could be a black brown or even pink supremacist ????

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 13:12:59

Firecracker123

Ha ha ha I apologise to no one and bend the knee for no one although I would for UK veterans.

And as for calling the UK a second rate banana republic, ha ha ha how ridiculous, are you for real. ????

I'm falling about laughing here now because I love my country and I am patriotic its being inferred I'm a white supremacist. How ridiculous and anyway as you don't know what colour I am I could be a black brown or even pink supremacist ????

You have completely misunderstood or misread my post.

Firecracker123 Fri 19-Mar-21 13:14:47

I don't think so.

Lucca Fri 19-Mar-21 13:16:56

Goodness me so many emojis.

seamstress Fri 19-Mar-21 13:22:26

Are those who criticise anything this government does "running the country down" ? A bit like the soviet "enemy of the state"? Chilling.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 19-Mar-21 13:28:59

Firecracker123

I don't think so.

So where do I say that patriotism and its dogwhistle meaning is connected to white supremacy in the U.K.?

I didn’t.

The U.K. type of patriotism is different to the USA’s form because in the U.K. it has been attached to concepts like Brexit and now morphing into a non-critical stance of the government. There is no apparent connection with white supremacy.

In the USA patriotism is attached to the concept of white supremacy and far right politics.

Katie59 Fri 19-Mar-21 14:36:40

Although I like the US and the people there I couldn’t live there, the politics is just so extreme and crazy, in particular there is a large minority of redneck racists.
OK we have a few extremists, they are a small number and we certainly don’t have a patriotism cult, we do have a much fairer society, it’s not perfect, there will always be the have nots. Having travelled to many countries Britain seems amongst the best, and of course migrants would agree, they take massive risks to get here.

Ilovecheese Fri 19-Mar-21 15:07:54

I love my country (U.K.) too, but I don't see the Government and my country as being the same thing. One of the things I admire about this country is that we are allowed to criticise the Government of the day without getting into trouble for it.
We are also allowed to protest about things that we don't agree with.
To prevent these protests would be damaging to our country in my opinion.

I think what seamstress said is true "Are those who criticise anything this government does "running the country down" ? A bit like the soviet "enemy of the state"? Chilling."

I can love my country and be patriotic without having to agree with everything that a particular Government of the day is doing.

I can also love my country without having to have an enormous Union flag in my sitting room.

Dinahmo Fri 19-Mar-21 16:40:52

Ilovecheese Agree absolutely

Lucca Fri 19-Mar-21 16:44:09

Good post I love cheese

Pantglas2 Fri 19-Mar-21 16:50:34

I so agree with previous posters saying that criticism of government is not criticism of country - which is why I have no qualms criticising Drakeford cocking things up in Wales, Johnson in Westminster and when we were still in EU, likewise!

varian Fri 19-Mar-21 18:00:56

It would be easier to identify the government with the country if we had a government democratically elected by a majority, NOT A MINORITY, of voters.

varian Sat 20-Mar-21 10:34:53

The Brexit deal signed in December has been thrown into jeopardy because of the recent breakdown of relations with the EU, an influential House of Lords committee is warning.

The European Union committee says “the threat of no deal remains”, with the European parliament now declining to set a date for its vote on the trade agreement sealed on Christmas Eve.

Its chairman, Lord Kinnoull, said there were “noises” coming out of the EU that it might delay ratification beyond the current target of 30 April, risking a further escalation of the row over the deal signed less than three months ago.

The peers’ warnings, in a report to be published on Monday, come just days after Brussels launched legal action against the UK, and the European commission vice-president Maroš Šefčovič accused the foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, of displaying a “total misunderstanding” of the Brexit deal.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/19/threat-of-no-deal-brexit-remains-peers-say-as-eu-relations-sour

varian Sun 21-Mar-21 11:22:31

Increased costs and red tape

www.ft.com/content/e2a57b06-d255-48f7-95ae-b1aee4b51ac7

Urmstongran Sun 21-Mar-21 18:47:47

Well some GOOD NEWS to share this Erving!

Fishermen and fishmongers in Cornwall are picking up home trade following Brexit with lobsters and spider crabs seeing a uplift in sales.

And the prices are great too!

Local Cornish fishermen are delighted. The EU market had lessened anyway with restaurants not ordering as much because of covid restrictions.

One fisherman said today:

“People started looking online and discovering that the supermarket production line means that by the time it gets to you the slab isn't fresh,” he said, adding that each morning he’ll pick the best catch for their 4kg boxes of assorted fish, which arrive on doorsteps the next day at a cost of £36.99.

He’s also begun rebranding items with megrim soles that used to be sent to Spain now marketed as “Cornish soles”.

Mr Trebilcock has also rebranded spider crabs - exported in vast numbers to Spain during the eighties - to instead be called the ‘Cornish king crab’.

As for his lobster, the price is at its highest ever, fetching £26 per kilo, where they usually go for £16 or £17 per kilo and he remarked “the restaurants haven’t even opened yet”.

He said the big reason for the boom in the British market is thanks to the public who “got behind it and bought local.”

Welshwife Sun 21-Mar-21 19:00:21

That is good news for them. I hope the extra local trade will make up for lost business. Did you gather whether or not they were cooking and cleaning the crabs etc?

MerylStreep Sun 21-Mar-21 19:04:45

Urmstongran
We started buying these ‘boxes’ last year. Both companies told us exactly what you’ve said. They are making more money by cutting out the middle man.

MerylStreep Sun 21-Mar-21 19:07:28

There’s one company that I’m really impressed with: they use recycled wool as insulation.

Ellianne Sun 21-Mar-21 19:18:22

The cornish crab industry is benefiting greatly from diversification. Whole families of fishers soon recognised how to enlarge their business with wives and partners preparing and also delivering the catch. More local employment.
You can choose how you want your crab Welshwife but you have to bear in mind weight and portions.