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Flying the flag

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varian Sat 20-Mar-21 13:51:47

Does the display of union jacks by politicians making video calls from their homes not just appear ridiculous, but a tad sinister?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/19/flag-of-convenience-why-ministers-cant-get-enough-of-the-union-jack

GrannyGravy13 Sat 20-Mar-21 19:23:25

MaizieD so if the Government was your choice you would be OK with them having the Union Flag in the background?

How odd ? I respect our flag and I am proud to be British whatever party is in power ?????????

Lucca Sat 20-Mar-21 19:27:08

Has anyone here got a flag in their living room?

Mamardoit Sat 20-Mar-21 19:28:27

MaizieD

Urmstongran

I think the Union flag is all about drawing us all together, post-Brexit. No bad thing as it represents something that unites us all, surely?
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In your dreams, Ug.

The sight of our self seeking, corrupt, and mendacious PM posturing in front of our national flag just fills me with disgust; as do his equally corrupt and mendacious ministers doing the same thing. They are dishonouring it.

All it does is draw me together with people who feel the same way about our government.

There are images of the Labour leader pictured with the union flag in the background. Does that disgust you? And is he dishonouring it?

Politicians from all countries have flags in view when they speak or are interviewed.

They are the elected government and they do have the right to appear with the flag. I didn't vote tory but I won't have a bloody hissy fit about what's in the background when they are being interviewed.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 20-Mar-21 19:29:22

Lucca

Has anyone here got a flag in their living room?

I am not a politician representing the United Kingdom.

Lucca Sat 20-Mar-21 19:32:46

But they are at home! I am happy to be British too but I honestly think this looks a bit weird and in my view doesn’t endear them to any slightly less than fully convinced Conservatives.

Mamardoit Sat 20-Mar-21 19:33:16

Lucca

Has anyone here got a flag in their living room?

I could nip upstairs and get the Gibraltar flag. Will that do?

Not sure where the other flags are. Yes I do have some.

lemsip Sat 20-Mar-21 19:33:36

Ilovecheese Just what part of my comment didn't you understand?

I wrote;

(if they are making video calls from home then presumably they are work calls as it's the 'office' to all intents and purposes)

lemsip Sat 20-Mar-21 19:34:41

Yes , working from home.

Urmstongran Sat 20-Mar-21 19:38:30

Having left the EU, it it time to rebuild being British, and make the use of the Union Jack mandatory in class rooms and public buildings, this would teach children the importance of patriotism and loyalty to ones Country.
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The BBC should also be forced to use it in newsrooms.

It is time for politicians to ensure the woke PC left do not get the upper hand in this invented culture war.

It must also be made a crime to deface or remove statues.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 19:41:29

If the state is enforcing rules, that attention would be better spent on preventing the public from spreading a deadly disease, with the army during lockdown, than making rules about a piece of fabric and keeping colonial reminders in public spaces where half of the population find them offensive.

vegansrock Sat 20-Mar-21 19:42:13

forced to use the flag.? really? I’ve got an EU flag will that do?!

Baggs Sat 20-Mar-21 19:42:22

Quite a few homes near us fly the Scottish Saltire. Some fly the Union Flag. And some fly both.

A flag's a flag. Those who sneer at flags are just puerile scoffers. Says more about them than anything else.

Casdon Sat 20-Mar-21 19:42:40

For what it’s worth Marmadoit I don’t like the flag being cynically used by anybody to attempt to manipulate the public, it’s no better if it’s the Labour Party than the Tories.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 19:42:51

vegansrock

forced to use the flag.? really? I’ve got an EU flag will that do?!

Careful. You'll be accused of being anti British.

vegansrock Sat 20-Mar-21 19:43:08

The soviet states were forced to use their flag or else...

Urmstongran Sat 20-Mar-21 19:43:46

vegansrock

forced to use the flag.? really? I’ve got an EU flag will that do?!

Yep in your own sitting room varian. Knock yourself out.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 19:48:35

I guess that is where we are heading. No public protesting allowed. Forced to only display a British flag, unless in the privacy of your own home.

Sounds like totalitariansim to me.

maddyone Sat 20-Mar-21 19:48:57

Lucca

But they are at home! I am happy to be British too but I honestly think this looks a bit weird and in my view doesn’t endear them to any slightly less than fully convinced Conservatives.

I think it only looks weird because we’re not used to it. In other countries it’s perfectly normal for politicians and indeed anyone else to display the national flag.
Unfortunately the flag has been hijacked by the far right. It’s very sad. We should all be able to respect our national flag without feeling that we’re somehow representing the far right.
I think the BBC presenters who sniggered are disgusting and should be removed from the programme.

Greyduster Sat 20-Mar-21 19:49:05

And how long are we going to have to wear a hair shirt over our colonial past too? Other countries - France, Belgium, Germany - had colonies too! Are they off the mea culpa hook while we suffer shame forever? Our colonial legacy wasn’t all bad - we made mistakes, yes, but we did leave some good things behind.

GagaJo Sat 20-Mar-21 19:52:03

I think if you talk to people in those colonies they see it very differently Greyduster.

You can't undo the colonial past. So yes, we do need to feel shame forever.

Urmstongran Sat 20-Mar-21 19:52:19

Well said Greyduster and maddyone. ?

I think there are millions of people in this country who like the fact our government ministers are doing this and think it's well overdue; well done the Government for doing this - it's about time.
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PamelaJ1 Sat 20-Mar-21 19:52:30

I think that everyone who appears on a video call on the media should have a totally plain wall behind them.
I was watching some woman being interviewed on GMB. I changed channels, LO and behold she was there again sans copies of her latest book which were prominent onGMB??

Why wasn’t a law passed. We may all have been happier.

Mamardoit Sat 20-Mar-21 19:54:02

I've only just looked back at the Charlie and Naga clip. I have given up watching the BBC in the morning. I get more done with the radio on.

The comment was infantile. Did she really use the term 'flag shaggers' in a tweet?

vegansrock Sat 20-Mar-21 19:54:42

A flag is a bit of cloth. Why imbue it with some sacred significance. It’s like a football shirt I suppose.

Callistemon Sat 20-Mar-21 19:56:45

Casdon

Also of course, Wales isn’t represented on the union flag. Marmadoit, not important enough?

Too important, Casdon!