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Is MILF an acceptable term?

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trisher Sun 21-Mar-21 10:06:58

The Labour candidate for Hartlepool tweetedyears ago that someone was a MILF. Is he a misogynist or just a badly informed young man, and is he suitable as a Labour candidate?

Galaxy Sun 21-Mar-21 13:00:58

It's a bit of a double edged sword for me, I think that kind of language adds to a certain view of women in society but I am wary of sacking people for tweets, I think that's quite a dangerous road too. There are public figures who I think are deeply deeply misogynistic but they wouldnt put out a tweet like that. So you just get the ones who can hide it better.

suziewoozie Sun 21-Mar-21 13:21:37

Galaxy

It's a bit of a double edged sword for me, I think that kind of language adds to a certain view of women in society but I am wary of sacking people for tweets, I think that's quite a dangerous road too. There are public figures who I think are deeply deeply misogynistic but they wouldnt put out a tweet like that. So you just get the ones who can hide it better.

Well it would be a start.In other areas of life we don’t not impose sanctions on people because some other people have done worse and haven’t been caught do we? If someone thinks they are grown up enough to be GP and an MP, they should be grown up enough to know how Twitter works.

Smileless2012 Sun 21-Mar-21 13:32:44

No it isn't acceptable and it's up the electorate to decide whether or not he's a suitable Labour candidate.

suziewoozie Sun 21-Mar-21 13:34:12

Smileless2012

No it isn't acceptable and it's up the electorate to decide whether or not he's a suitable Labour candidate.

Sadly though it doesn’t work like that does it?

Galaxy Sun 21-Mar-21 13:36:51

They dont do worse Suzie, they hide it better.

Galaxy Sun 21-Mar-21 13:39:16

Sorry that was really badly explained. And its quite hard to explain without naming people. But you would for example lose this candidate, and I have no particular allegiance to him, but those who are much much worse would remain.

Nannan2 Sun 21-Mar-21 13:44:08

I don't like the sound of this man,- but, conservative representatives aren't much (if any) better, are they?

grannyrebel7 Sun 21-Mar-21 13:45:25

Calendargirl that made me laugh!

suziewoozie Sun 21-Mar-21 13:46:23

Galaxy

Sorry that was really badly explained. And its quite hard to explain without naming people. But you would for example lose this candidate, and I have no particular allegiance to him, but those who are much much worse would remain.

But this motorist could be banned for racking up 12 points for speeding and that one has driven often whilst drunk but was never caught.

suziewoozie Sun 21-Mar-21 13:47:44

Nannan2

I don't like the sound of this man,- but, conservative representatives aren't much (if any) better, are they?

But it’s not a party thing is it? It’s about childish men who don’t know how to behave - they exist across the political spectrum

Galaxy Sun 21-Mar-21 13:52:59

It's not that they dont get caught it's that they are too clever/Twitter savvy to put out a wrong tweet. But if they gained power the results for women would be so much worse than a sexist arse who has apologised. It's a bit like the way women thought all the danger to their rights was coming from the right wing only to turn around and realise that a sizeable part of the left absolutely hated women and were really quite dangerous as well.

suziewoozie Sun 21-Mar-21 13:59:34

Galaxy

It's not that they dont get caught it's that they are too clever/Twitter savvy to put out a wrong tweet. But if they gained power the results for women would be so much worse than a sexist arse who has apologised. It's a bit like the way women thought all the danger to their rights was coming from the right wing only to turn around and realise that a sizeable part of the left absolutely hated women and were really quite dangerous as well.

I understand now what you meant. But there’s another possibility - there could be another good candidate isn’t a ‘sexist arse’ at all ?

Galaxy Sun 21-Mar-21 14:04:10

Yes that's always a possibility. smile

varian Sun 21-Mar-21 14:09:56

Willie Rennie, leader of the Scottish Liberal Democrats has told its spring conference that the Scottish Lib Dems’ equalities spokeswoman Caron Lindsay has proposed a commission to look into violence against women and girls, to consider ways to make society more hospitable.

She has invited all major parties to commit to it, to examine the issues and make recommendations within the first year of the new Scottish Parliament.

M0nica Sun 21-Mar-21 14:37:03

Heavens sake, it was ten years ago. He was a stupid young lad. Since then he has become a qualifid doctor and grown up.

I am reminded of the gospel incident when the Pharisees wanted to stone a woman caught in adultery. Jesus was there and said 'Let him without sin throw the first stone.' - and one by one they slunk away.

I think anyone wanting to cancel someone for a remark made 10 years ago as a cslloe youth, should first declare in public that they have never used an opprobrious word or thought an impious thought for at least twenty years and only then open their mouth or post on social media any condemnation of this yourg man.

Oldbat1 Sun 21-Mar-21 14:39:50

Dreadful term but it was ten years ago so I trust his mindset has changed. The current Prime Minister eg has over the years used dreadful terminology plus fathering numerous children with different mothers - is that acceptable?

NotSpaghetti Sun 21-Mar-21 14:57:49

M0nica it was ten years ago when he was nearly 40 (not a callow youth) and a doctor.
I would be dismayed if my sons were tweeting this kind of stuff at any age - let alone my GP.

JaneJudge Sun 21-Mar-21 15:22:07

It must have been ok to vote for a man who made racist remarks, amongst other things in a news paper column and impregnated various women whilst married to his wife though. That appears to have not registered with most people.

Baggs Sun 21-Mar-21 15:26:51

People are very unforgiving.

And yet, even Prime Ministers (not thinking of the current one at the moment, as it happens) have been forgiven for taking illegal drugs.

I suppose the most critical were never silly and were youths of great saintliness.

Ro60 Sun 21-Mar-21 15:31:29

? Well! - learn some new every day. Wish I could unlearn that one. Disgusting.
Not acceptable if that info is still out on him I think he should bow out.

Bridgeit Sun 21-Mar-21 15:50:40

Doesn’t sit well with me, I think it is a degrading term, which in my opinion should cast doubt on this persons integrity to be considered as a candidate for any political party.

trisher Sun 21-Mar-21 15:50:51

I think one of the problems that will exist if stupid actions like this are permitted to define a man for ever is that men will develop the correct procedure and vocabulary but still harbour a deep dislike for women which will emerge in other ways. I find the Saudi connection far more worrying. If that didn't put Keir Starmer off supporting him you start to wonder what would? Anyone less suitable to be a Labour candidate I can't imagine.

Doodledog Sun 21-Mar-21 15:52:11

I'm torn on this one.

On one hand the man appears to be a bit of a prat. I don't think the term is appropriate for anyone to use (I can't honestly say why the fact that he is/was a GP is relevant - they don't take vows of chastity or forswear impure thoughts any more than any other professional group), but on the other hand, I don't like the idea that the opposition can trawl through anyone's history (on either side of the political divide) and use passing comments to discredit them.

I agree with whoever said upthread that 10 years ago people probably thought that Twitter was akin to chatting with friends, however naive that sounds now.

It's bit like posting on here, I think. I'm sure that there are people on GN who are very sure of their own unassailable virtue, but honestly - would you want someone picking up on everything you had ever said (in or out of context) and using it against you ten years later? People's opinions and behaviour do change over the years (adults as well as callow youths), and I think we should all be able to move on from past mistakes.

I still think he sounds like a bit of a prat though grin.

Bridgeit Sun 21-Mar-21 16:06:58

By using that term, he is revealing a certain mindset, which IMO
is not an attribute that is very pleasant found in any man let alone one who is wanting to be a political candidate.

BlueBelle Sun 21-Mar-21 16:31:19

I m told by the younger generation who are shocked by our (elders) shock at the ‘f’ word that it is very innocent and a normal expression that isn’t thought of as rude or offensive by them in the least it is on the same level as ‘dam’ or darn it to us and not shocking to them
This doesn’t have a lot to do with the man and his tweets but just an add on to the general discussion of ‘bad’ language
The acronym mentioned has been round a long time and I haven’t heard it used for years I think it went out of general usage a good while ago