Scottish Election 6 weeks away.

I'm very happy with the results.
SNP and Green votes up and won a few more seats
A pro-independence majority in the Parliament
The ALBA experiment (aka ego trip) failed miserably
Labour making progress
Another Indy ref in the pipeline after the pandemic is over

Yes I'm a very happy Bunny today.

You are also a very short-sighted one.

And you, eazybee, are a very rude person.

Unionists can squirm all they like trying to say there’s no mandate for a referendum

But the last one was ‘once in a generation’ that was agreed to by Scotland and signed and witnessed.

I think NS will have to challenge the validity of trying for another go round (reminds me of the EU - “keep voting people until you give those of us in power the result we’re aiming for” - vis the Supreme Court.

A certain Mr Salmond first used the phrase "once in a generation" in a TV interview after the Edinburgh Agreement had been signed. Not signed and witnessed. Not in any agreements. Not even a real thing.

Keep squirming.

Okay.

What about my EU ‘vote again till you get it right’ comment then Alegrias?

Urmstongran

Okay.

What about my EU ‘vote again till you get it right’ comment then Alegrias?

It's ignorant and ill informed, Ug.

We're not going "give us another go, we didn't like what happened before"

We're saying "the world has changed, we need to have our say again".

Personally, I'd concentrate on showing that we can be a successful independent nation and have the referendum when that is so obvious that anybody voting for continued Union would be in the minority. Seems obvious to me. But I'm not in charge.

The Lisbon Treaty MaizieD?

^But the last one was ‘once in a generation’ that was agreed to by Scotland and signed and witnessed"

Rubbish or should I say gently, you have been misinformed.

For the umpteenth time - The "Once in a generation opportunity" was a throw away remark made by Alex Salmond and in context, was referring to the fact that Scots had never had this opportunity before. It was retrospective rather than referring to the future.

It was never "agreed to by Scotland and signed and witnessed" Indeed the commission set up after the referendum, (which was agreed by both sides) specifically makes no mention of any bar on a future referendum nor a timeframe when that could be brought forward.

Frankly it’s daft to argue who said what about what. Things change and politics moves on. If Independence is such a terrible idea, why not simply give Scotland the chance to reject it through holding a referendum?

I didn’t mean you were being daft G23 as our posts crossed - it was the idea of arguing against democracy and giving people a choice.

You’re right. I’ve (sadly) changed my mind. Bring on a referendum and let’s settle the matter once and for all.

I hope Scotland reject Indy2 but as you’re all saying, it’s their decision to make.

Granny23 didn't you notice the thousands of SNP2 votes which acheived nothing at all?
You're happy with that rather than for them to have gone to another independence supporting party?

Urmstongran

You’re right. I’ve (sadly) changed my mind. Bring on a referendum and let’s settle the matter once and for all.

I hope Scotland reject Indy2 but as you’re all saying, it’s their decision to make.

Fair play if you mean that

Urmstongran said "We need to lovebomb Scotland! I’d hate for them to leave the Union."

That was already done in 2014, then the love all shriveled away straight after the referendum.
It won't work again.

I do.
Cross my heart and hope to die.

But the last one was ‘once in a generation’ that was agreed to by Scotland and signed and witnessed.

It wasn't.
It wasn't even written on the side of a bus.

I don’t normally post on these threads or indeed any threads much but can I ask a question?

It would appear that the voters in Scotland have voted for a party who’s manifesto stated quite clearly that a referendum would be offered to the voters when the time was right?

What valid reasons can others now have to oppose that?

I’m interested in learning why this democratic right is being opposed?

If the people don’t want independence then surely
the ballot box is the only way to settle the argument?

The only thing worse than not getting what you want , is getting it. They (Scotland) should have a second referendum, because they want to leave theUK.

Not giving it to them is like trying to keep a cheating husband in a marriage, who really wants to leave.
Just my opinion.

In the interests of transparency I have wasted over an hour of my precious time perusing the Smith Commission Report qv assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/397079/Scotland_EnduringSettlement_acc.pdf

As I said the report was agreed and signed by both UK and Scottish Governments ( There remains dispute as to whether ALL or indeed MOST of the promises within were fulfilled)

However there is definitely no mention whatsoever of any future Referendums. Nor indeed. of the introduction of EVIL legislation, immediately after the lost referendum, without any consultation with the Welsh or Scottish Governments. Quell Surprise!

Before anyone asks, I voted remain

I do know a few people who vote SNP but would vote against a break up of the union. Which to me is quite baffling.

Personally I'd like to see a referendum as soon as possible.

Let's get it sorted so we know one way or another and there isn't this battle of words/wills.

We might be more inclined to stay in a Union with people who stopped referring to us as "they" and calling us short sighted. Or even comparing us to a cheating husband.

Know your Place Unionism, eh?

If you mean me Alegrias1 I apologise. I didn't mean to be insulting