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Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings

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Iam64 Fri 23-Apr-21 18:55:04

Demonic has suggested that Mr Johnson has been not entirely honest about his communications with James Dyson.

I recognise many people believe Mr J was ‘doing his best for the country in a pandemic’ when he offered to sort the tax for Mr Dyson. But, do we want ethical government or not?

Doodledog Wed 28-Apr-21 12:26:46

A rattle snake ???

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I missed KS's question unfortunately, but am watching PMQ now, and really wish that Bercow was back. Johnson is not answering the questions at all. He was particularly obfuscatory with the Welsh MP (the one with the purple hair - I missed her name.)

seamstress Wed 28-Apr-21 12:28:47

Tony Blairs spend was over 10 years - they are allowed £30k per year. ( too much IMHO)

MaizieD Wed 28-Apr-21 12:29:11

I think we should carefully note Starmer's point about the Electoral Commission.

If Bozo had paid the initial invoice for the tasteless trashing redecoration of the flat at no. 11 the Electoral commission wouldn't be investigating because it would have been completely in accordance with the rules.

It is absolutely clear that he didn't pay it. So, lying to Parliament again and breaking the rules.

MayBee70 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:29:18

MaizieD

Whitewavemark2

Now we know that it was Lord Brownlow who has benefited from government contracts, and helped fund the flat.

I thought that had been disclosed days ago? Has it only just come to the notice of the press? I saw it on twitter several times last week.

I saw it on Facebook a few days ago but then couldn’t find it. Assumed someone had taken it down.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:33:01

Oh I’d forgotten his promise to publish the communication between Johnson and Dyson.

He did do it.

No surprise

JaneJudge Wed 28-Apr-21 12:33:29

I wonder where erm pinty pint erm bos erm boso bos bos bosworth is

Whitewavemark2 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:36:48

JaneJudge

I wonder where erm pinty pint erm bos erm boso bos bos bosworth is

Near a field,?

Alegrias1 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:41:55

I'm watching PMQs on catch up. Starmer is right in his comfort zone, this is what he's good at. He understands the finer points of the law, and looks cool compared to Johnson who is just having a hissy fit.

Oh, and deflecting. Council housing, Brexit and Kate Bingham, honest to goodness....he's an embarrassment. Oh, the SuperLeague now. confused

JaneJudge Wed 28-Apr-21 12:42:06

A field where he can practise his rambling perorations

PippaZ Wed 28-Apr-21 12:48:25

MaizieD

I think we should carefully note Starmer's point about the Electoral Commission.

If Bozo had paid the initial invoice for the tasteless trashing redecoration of the flat at no. 11 the Electoral commission wouldn't be investigating because it would have been completely in accordance with the rules.

It is absolutely clear that he didn't pay it. So, lying to Parliament again and breaking the rules.

He either didn't pay for it or didn't inform in the appropriate time. That may be why the Electoral commission think there is a reason to investigate. He has broken the rules either way.

Alegrias1 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:49:50

Who paid for your curtains PM?

Well we're going to have 20,000 more policemen and what the people of Scotland want is....

I've got news for you pal, we want to know who paid for your curtains.

Iam64 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:54:16

I listened to Starmer and Blackford on PMQ’s. Both were clear in their questions, none of which were answered by Johnson. His shouty political party broadcast for the Tori’s in the local elections was the usual obfuscation and own trumpet blowing. He is Shameless.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 28-Apr-21 12:56:21

So it seems according to Kuenssberg - that when Johnson moved into the flat, he immediately set about on a massive refurbishment, and all went swimmingly until the bill came in.

He couldn’t pay it?

Then set about begging for help.

Who on earth refurbishes their temporary home at vast expense and doesn’t keep to a budget?

PippaZ Wed 28-Apr-21 12:57:47

Apparently it is unusual for Boris to do this.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 28-Apr-21 13:01:24

He is rattled. The pressure must be continuous.

Lucca Wed 28-Apr-21 13:01:27

Well he got brexit done so absolutely nothing else matters .

PippaZ Wed 28-Apr-21 13:04:35

There seems to be quite a bit of bluster on Twitter with posters saying that they think the PM did say the bit about the bodies but asking why it matters!

Over half our death toll occurred after Christmas, he mocked Starmer as a Grinch when he raised invoking a lockdown. He sent kids back to school for a single day. Criminal negligence. @DAaronovitch

PippaZ Wed 28-Apr-21 13:05:13

Lucca

Well he got brexit done so absolutely nothing else matters .

What tone are you saying that in Lucca?

Lucca Wed 28-Apr-21 13:08:00

Take a wild guess Pippa!!

muffinthemoo Wed 28-Apr-21 13:09:40

I want to see the “gold wall hangings”. They sound absolutely fascinating.

lemongrove Wed 28-Apr-21 13:11:25

Irony is wasted on some people ?

lemongrove Wed 28-Apr-21 13:17:25

Gold wall hangings? Are they similar to the Pugin inspired ones a certain gentleman once purchased?

PMQ’s are always a bear pit, a short time for the Opposition to do it’s best to outdo the government.Very few people actually watch it or care what goes on there.
What matters is lying to Parliament ( not any crimes about paying or not for soft furnishings, which is minor in comparison) if it can be proved that and MP or PM has lied, then it’s more serious.That’s why they don’t often answer things outright with a yes or no.

Violettham Wed 28-Apr-21 13:18:03

Keeping quiet I take a lot of offence at your comment. Although I may be old I do know what am doing I voted Labour when very young and then for a long tim e Conservative. Never again and I didnt vote for them at the last election. I suggest t you consideer more carefully your comments

JaneJudge Wed 28-Apr-21 13:20:32

this is the company who refurbed it but there are no pictures of wall hangings on there www.soane.co.uk/
It looks a bit William Morris in parts after he's been on a few dates with Vanessa Arbuthnott

lemongrove Wed 28-Apr-21 13:22:39

Violet I don’t know what was said, but if you put a poster’s name within asterisks like this keepingquiet then it becomes more obvious.Or even better, use the quote function next to
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