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Mr Johnson and Mr Cummings

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Iam64 Fri 23-Apr-21 18:55:04

Demonic has suggested that Mr Johnson has been not entirely honest about his communications with James Dyson.

I recognise many people believe Mr J was ‘doing his best for the country in a pandemic’ when he offered to sort the tax for Mr Dyson. But, do we want ethical government or not?

Oldbat1 Wed 28-Apr-21 20:52:53

Very disappointed with the Speaker - he does nothing. Johnson never answers a question and nothing is said. Johnson is allowed an easy ride and spouts out his rubbish party political nonsense . Hopefully the truth will out. I cannot stand liars. John Bercow is certainly missed by me.

Urmstongran Wed 28-Apr-21 20:58:57

Boris won’t resign! Carrie’d kill him. She’s only just had their apartment refurbished don’t you know! No point all that upheaval and then handing in your notice.
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Callistemon Wed 28-Apr-21 21:10:44

She could take the curtains with her, couldn't she?
Or do they belong to us now?

First dibs anyone?

Pantglas2 Wed 28-Apr-21 21:12:10

When we decided to paint over it, it proved impossible so we had to hire a robust wallpaper stripper

After 15 pages, this is the most intriguing sentence I’ve read in a while Callistemon ? Was he handsome?

Callistemon Wed 28-Apr-21 21:12:56

Are they William Morris?

✋ Me!
(I paid my tax)

Callistemon Wed 28-Apr-21 21:14:33

Pantglas I wish!

It was a robust steamer - a machine unfortunately!

Callistemon Wed 28-Apr-21 21:21:31

With all that is happening here and around the world, I cannot worry about this at all.

However, it could be the straw that broke the camel's back.

vegansrock Wed 28-Apr-21 21:47:22

Now it’s cash for curtains.

Aveline Wed 28-Apr-21 21:56:19

vegansrock gringringrin

Washerwoman Wed 28-Apr-21 21:58:22

Not a single mention on the BBC News website of Sir James Dyson statement today I notice.

Callistemon Wed 28-Apr-21 22:14:54

Is it curtains for Boris?

Lucca Wed 28-Apr-21 22:24:47

varian

Johnson and Cummings are both disreputable liars without any shred of integrity or good character.

Cummings is said to live in fear of being jailed because of the lies and illegality which led to brexit.

Johnson is a narcissist who exploited his ability to pass himself off as a blameless bumbling idiot to achieve his ambition to become PM.

He is completely out of his depth, but seems to be able (according to some senior Tories) to be able to get away with anything. Why?????

Couldn’t agree more ! You have hit the nail on the head.

vegansrock Thu 29-Apr-21 03:11:57

Is it the final curtain?
Or sofa so good?

Iam64 Thu 29-Apr-21 07:36:12

Is it usual for the PM to use pmq’s as a party political broadcast. Johnson made a number of references to government ‘successes’ when advising people to vote conservative in the local elections.
Brass neck of the man. Labour councils have had funding slashed by his government, while Tory councils in wealthy boroughs had theirs increased.
Shameless

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 07:40:24

So after yesterday’s PMQs are we any further forward into the saga of the alleged corruption, lies and fraud relating to the Prime minister?

First Starmer asked him if he did say “let the bodies pile up”

Johnson’s answer was “No”

So let’s take him at his word as it is now recorded for the world to see in Hansard. No one would be so stupid/arrogant to lie knowing this and take the risk of witnesses being prepared to come forward would they?

Starmer reminded Johnson that lying to the House was a resignation offence. It would be left at that (pause) for now. (that felt quite threatening)

Starmer then asked Johnson if he paid the initial invoice (of £200000) for the flat refurbishment.

Johnson answered by talking about the EMA and that Blair had spent £350000 over his term in No10.

So Johnson failed to answer the question. Now I take from that, that coming up with a good excuse/lie is still work in progress and at the moment I think we may take it that Johnson is guilty as charged.

Not guilty of having expensive tastes, but guilty of breaking ministerial code. Johnson has form when it comes to breaking the law and lying.

There are numerous other issues that need addressing but this will do for now.

Iam64 Thu 29-Apr-21 07:50:18

Johnson was rattled during yesterday’s PMQs. The DM today has a couple of articles that acknowledge his unreliable approach to his personal and professional life.

I can’t be the only person who finds the level of spending on temporary accommodation staggering. It’s public property, with a budget of £30,000 a year for maintenance. I accept I’m dead common because I’d have been happy to live with John Lewis furnishings and fixtures. It just seems frankly scandalous to transform the apartment in such a way. The next PM will have to live with that until they spend another fortune on refurb.

MaizieD Thu 29-Apr-21 07:53:43

His party political broadcast in answer to the last question from the LOTO is quite a clever strategy. Has anyone else noticed that he says just about the same things every time. It's like he goes into automatic pilot and just spits out a familiar script. It reminds me of the article I read about him giving the same after dinner speech time after time, with the same accompanying tricks.

Why is it clever?

Well, most importantly, there's nothing so good as repetition for fixing a message in people's minds.

It is economical for him. He doesn't have to think up an appropriate response, just launch into the script. It's a literal 'no brainer' ?

Like the after dinner speech, it's a technique that has worked really well for him. Why change it?

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 07:58:37

maizie spot on.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Apr-21 08:04:30

Mind you the sight of Johnson having a sweaty breakdown was something to behold.

I think we could call it The Cumming’s Revenge.

Urmstongran Thu 29-Apr-21 08:43:53

Morning! ??

PippaZ Thu 29-Apr-21 09:28:28

All those things we think and do not say very relevant Jonathan Pie

*warning some language and opinions in this may offendgrin

PippaZ Thu 29-Apr-21 09:30:10

Sorry I picked up the address when it was partly through but just click back to the beginning of the time line.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 29-Apr-21 09:50:39

Mr.Johnson’s government has just secured 60 million doses of Pfizer vaccine for Sep/Oct boosters. Well done them ??

This is what the men/women in the street are interested in.

Casdon Thu 29-Apr-21 09:54:29

And rightly so GrannyGravy13, but it would be immensely condescending to think that’s ALL the man in the street is interested in, wouldn’t it?

PippaZ Thu 29-Apr-21 09:58:11

GrannyGravy13

Mr.Johnson’s government has just secured 60 million doses of Pfizer vaccine for Sep/Oct boosters. Well done them ??

This is what the men/women in the street are interested in.

GrannyGravy13 who gave you the right to talk for everyone? That's may be how you feel. You may not care about democracy in the way others do but please don't talk for the rest of the UK population; it's irritating and makes the speaker sound as if they have the same arrogance as Johnson.

If you know by way of data it would be interesting to see it.