Covid vaccinations to be made compulsory for care home staff

JenniferEccles

I am struggling to have any sympathy with those who refuse.
They must be well aware of how reassuring it would be for the residents and their families knowing that every member of staff had been vaccinated.

Well.... you should know that there are some charlatans posing as experts on sites like Telegram and they are spreading information that the covid jab will change your dna so you're not related to your family anymore and other stupid stuff like that. They are spreading convulsion videos and telling people they will get convulsions if they have it and generally saying anything they can think of to try and spread as much FEAR as possible. Their motive? CONTROL!

I don't know what is behind these groups, but know they have gone underground to try and avoid detection by the authorities. I have been targetted by someone who is in one of these groups and that's how I know.

If people are not having the jab, I guarantee they are terrified because of the videos that these evil people are inventing. They use video clips from films and mash them up with Dr's talking but they make sure they include the bits they want to include so the message is one they want to be shared.

False things I've been told would happen if I got the jab:
convulsions
death
my pineal gland would calcify
My organs would shut down
My dna would change so Id not be related to my family any more (!!!)

So these are a few of the absolutely nonsensical statements that were fed to me by someone I know who was desperately trying to convert me to the anti vax beliefs.

Honestly. They put so much fear into me that I nearly didn't have the jab AT ALL. But then I realised that everyone I knew was absolutely fine and NO ONE had any of the symptoms. I had both jabs and am absolutely fine. I tried telling this to the person who tried so hard to stop me and their only comment was "oh, that's because the protien hasn't spiked yet"

I hope no one else is being targetted like this or if you have young people in your family, do talk to them to check what they are being told online. There's some very scary stuff going round and it actually looks true- but when you talk to anyone with a medical degree you realise it's not.

Good for them. SueDomin. I'm g;lad that both your daughters have been jabbed.

My pregnant daughter had her first jab last week. As an asthmatic, she reckoned the likelihood of Covid making her seriously ill was far greater than the possibility of any side effects from the jab.

My young medic daughter has been double jabbed, so she can keep her patients safe.

The NHS is setting up specialist long COVID services for children and young people as part of a £100 million expansion of care for those suffering from the condition.

The 15 new paediatric hubs will draw together experts on common symptoms such as respiratory problems and fatigue who can directly treat youngsters, advise family doctors or others caring for them or refer them into other specialist services and clinics.

Some £30 million will also go to GPs to improve diagnosis and care for those with long COVID while the new investment will also boost online services.

The boost to dedicated services for young people is part of a package of investment in a range of measures to help young people and adults with long COVID, including a major focus on specialist treatment and rehab services.

Some estimates suggest that 340,000 people may need support for the condition including 68,000 who will need rehab or other specialist treatment.

www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/nhs-sets-up-specialist-young-peoples-services-in-100-million-long-covid-care-expansion/

effalump

I don't think any woman of childbearing age should go anywhere near that junk until they've spent at a least a year researching rather than listening to Government and the BBC. Then they can make a proper informed choice.

Here you go: 37 million pages returned after a search for "Covid vaccination fertility". None of them the government or the BBC

Hope I have save you some time

www.google.co.uk/search?q=infertility+covid+vaccine&ei=_JbQYKvAPNTjgwfA_KeIAQ&oq=infertility+covid+vaccine&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAM6BQgAELADOgQIABANUPkWWK4cYP8haAFwAHgAgAFTiAHyA5IBATeYAQCgAQGqAQdnd3Mtd2l6yAECwAEB&sclient=gws-wiz&ved=0ahUKEwirrpef7ajxAhXU8eAKHUD-CREQ4dUDCA8&uact=5

varian

Data from one study shows that of more than 3,000 adults ages 18 to 34 who contracted COVID-19 and became sick enough to require hospital care, 21% ended up in intensive care, 10% were placed on a breathing machine and 2.7% died.

Does the data show if any, or how many, developed long covid?

Data from one study shows that of more than 3,000 adults ages 18 to 34 who contracted COVID-19 and became sick enough to require hospital care, 21% ended up in intensive care, 10% were placed on a breathing machine and 2.7% died.

effalump exactly, my 20yr old daughter has had her invite today. That's gone straight in the bin!

I don't think any woman of childbearing age should go anywhere near that junk until they've spent at a least a year researching rather than listening to Government and the BBC. Then they can make a proper informed choice.

I imagine most family are being more careful anyway.

I agree JaneJudge. I haven’t been on public transport since the start of the pandemic, I don’t go in indoor restaurants or cafes and other than a brief grocery shopping trip I avoid shops. All in the hope of keeping my care home visits risk free for my cousin and fellow residents.

Most of the care staff are half my age. Many have to travel to work on busy buses, they have teenage children who are mixing in large unvaccinated groups. All part of their normal family life that fits in around their job. But it does cause me concern that some staff might choose to refuse vaccination which would greatly reduce their likelihood of carrying the virus into their workplace.

Grannynannywanny

My cousin has severe learning difficulties and in recent years also early onset dementia. After many dreadful months of care home window visits I can now visit indoors. I need to wear mask and gloves and sit 2m apart from him.

I am double vaccinated. I don’t know if all his care staff are vaccinated and can only hope so. If they are not then he is more at risk from them than me.

I know, I have felt like this throughout. I don't understand why family (at least one or two named people) cannot visit if they take the same precautions as staff have to. I imagine most family are being more careful anyway.

As care workers are generally not well paid, I wonder whether those who refuse to be jabbed should be offered a financial incentive? Perhaps a pay rise for those who've been double jabbed. After all these carers can work with all clients, whereas some clients may legitimately refuse to have contact with un-jabbed carers.

I worked for the NHS many years ago in a laboratory, so wasn't patient facing, but obviously had contact generally with people on the hospital site. When I started I had to have tests to check my immune status. I wasn't aware of having had Rubella. I'd had all the other childhood diseases in the days before most of the vaccines were available. It turned out I was immune, otherwise I'd have been offered the vaccine - I'm not sure if it was compulsory. I'd have been happy to have it but it wasn't necessary. I must have had it very mildly when my mother and brother had it!
I'm very pro-vaccination so I'm glad it is being made compulsory. It will be interesting to see how many anti-vaxers change their minds when vaccine passports are necessary for holidaying abroad or to partake in various leisure activities.

My cousin has severe learning difficulties and in recent years also early onset dementia. After many dreadful months of care home window visits I can now visit indoors. I need to wear mask and gloves and sit 2m apart from him.

I am double vaccinated. I don’t know if all his care staff are vaccinated and can only hope so. If they are not then he is more at risk from them than me.

Apologies if this appears twice. Having problems posting.

Thank you Artemis Gran16 and GNW for the information

Sorry my phone always converts it to Astral

I am working with a woman in her forties who had been advised by her doctors due to family history of blood clotting issues Lucca, both parents died of it, I think it was astral zenneca that was of particular concern but certainly as of a fortnight ago she was unvaccinated. This hopefully will be a temporary issue.

Daftbag1

I'm really not comfortable with legislating over vaccine acceptance. The reality is that no one knows what the vaccine reaction over the longer term. It is possible that it will have a negative impact on all sorts of people. The other question that I have is what about the few people who have very serious reactions to the vaccines, are they guaranteed pay during any period that they are unable to work?

That said, I was a shielder, so extremely high risk if I caught Covid. I have had both doses of the vaccine, with no bad side effects, but remain concerned that I could react in the future, we simply don't know what the impact is......remember thalidomide?

Thalidomide wasn’t a vaccine was it ?

My friend has a long list of severe allergies which have resulted in anaphylaxis many times for her. She has a list of 40 substances/ingredients she must avoid.

She was still able to have both vaccinations. She attended a hospital clinic which was designated for severe allergy sufferers. She met some of the same patients when she returned for her second one and none had experienced a significant problem.

It seems common sense to me that those working with vulnerable and health compromised people should not be allowed to pose them any extra risk. Health professionals have to have jabs such as the Hep B vaccination for other infection risks already.

In any case, no one is saying that a person has to be vaccinated against their will, just that certain, specific posts will not be available to them.

I have 2 extremely rare and incurable auto immune illnesses and take immunosuppression medication and steroids to attempt to control them, and I had to shield for the 3-4 months from March to July 2020. I had in depth conversations with my consultants regarding the covid vaccine and it was decided that the risk of covid for me far outweighed the risk of taking the vaccine. I have had both doses of the AZ vaccine and the first made me poorly for around 4 days but the 2nd produced no side effects whatsoever.

I'm 57 and cannot afford not to work (10 years to pension age), I cannot work from home and my employer is doing everything possible to keep me safe at work which I am grateful for, my work colleagues are all very supportive too and all have had their vaccines as they became available.

I dont know how anyone could think this pandemic is not real and why taking a vaccine that millions of people have taken with no issues is such a problem. I wonder how many decide they are not having the vaccine but then change their mind when it suits them for the need to holiday abroad. Very selfish attitude to be honest I think.

We all have our opinions and need to be kind. Those that are against the vaccine .. if you contracted covid and indirectly caused the death of a loved one would you still believe you did the right thing with no guilt?!

And maybe answer the questions politely asked by many posters about where you got your information from too, it's not much to ask is it?

I know of a couple of people who can't have the jab. My friend can't cos she has terminal breast cancer and has just had some chemo to try to give her a little more time and another guy I know can't have his 2nd until his doctor looks into it cos he had an anaphylactic shock after the first. If someone is able to have it we have seriously think to do it, it may help others who can't.

theworriedwell

greenlady102

the people I know of who haven't had it have got BADLY impaired immune systems or a record of randomly reacting badly to stuff and in both cases they are generally frail and have taken specialist medical advice..I also know of a couple of people who had bad reactions to the first jab and were advised not to have a second. No anaphyllaxis. None of them are well enough to work at anything.

They really need the rest of us to have it to help protect them don't they.

well that's my view definitely

Stephania1954

I work in a care home. Most staff have been vaccinated but we have a group of staff who have not. These are mostly Eastern Europeans ( Poles, Lithuanian and Romanians) but also young girls and a few others who are I think attention seekers.
The rest of the staff are not happy with them not being vaccinated and would rather not work with them.
Not only are they risking the residents but other staff and families.
They also tried ( unsuccessfully) to avoid the twice weekly testing.
I and the rest of the vaccinated staff would like to see COVID vaccination compulsory and see what happens to the staff who have refused to be vaccinated. Some will make a stand and say the government is trying to keep tabs on everyone via some device in the jab ( this is the Eastern European stance) and they might leave, the young girls ( who have heard about fertility issues) will be reassured and the time wasters well who cares about them.

The home I work in is 100% vaccinated, residents, staff, manager, owner. Everyone wanted it, we were one of the last homes to get it so maybe we just got more and more anxious to get it because we thought we were missing out. Maybe that's the answer.

I'm very pro vaccine, got mine before the people I work with as DHs carer, but I do worry about this as recruitment of staff isn't easy and staff shortage are common.

JaneJudge

^Are you an idiot Matt Hancock?^

'I don't think so!'

Bless him, he shouldn't be out on his own should he.