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Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jun-21 09:03:08

HMRC have published some figures to show that food and drink exports fell by 2bn in the first 3 months since Brexit.

Dairy was down a massive 90%? and there were losses across the board.

The figures show that rather it being a teething issue as the Tories would have us believe it is in fact structural and likely to continue unless there is some sort of move towards say the SM.

Kali2 Sat 31-Jul-21 20:56:08

Whitewavemark2

Glaxo is in the middle of splitting what is left in the U.K. when that finally happens most will go to the EU and a small rump left in U.K.

The majority had now left the U.K. and is in the EU

Was so proud to work for Beecham's European division in London in the early 70s, such a wonderful British company. Friends worked at the Worthing plant.

Dinahmo Sat 31-Jul-21 17:03:37

Wait for it WWM the naysayers will be on soon pointing out that the sample was only 615 so the figures can't be accurate! smile

Whitewavemark2 Sat 31-Jul-21 15:32:17

Believe!

Whitewavemark2 Sat 31-Jul-21 15:31:57

This, not covid as they would have us beleive

Whitewavemark2 Sat 31-Jul-21 10:55:02

Glaxo is in the middle of splitting what is left in the U.K. when that finally happens most will go to the EU and a small rump left in U.K.

The majority had now left the U.K. and is in the EU

MaizieD Sat 31-Jul-21 10:44:24

3,000 workers at the Honda plant in Swindon become jobless today when it closes down.

Plus, of course, jobs lost in related industries which supplied the plant, and a drop in spending in local businesses.

www.theguardian.com/business/2019/feb/18/hondas-exit-is-based-on-many-factors-but-brexit-is-certainly-one

(old article, but nothing changed since then)

Kali2 Tue 27-Jul-21 15:41:40

The new (unilateral) deadlines are:

1 October 2021 —Pre-notification and export health certificates (EHCs) required for animal-origin products. This includes goods that are only transiting through the UK, say from France to the Republic of Ireland. EHCs have been one of the biggest issues on GB-EU trade with minor errors leading to delayed shipments. They are time-consuming (and expensive) and must be completed by a vet, or other qualified person.

1 January 2022 —Physical checks to begin at the border, including on animal and plants products, along with requirements for safety and security declarations. Some products, such as chilled mincemeat and fresh sausages, will be completely banned from entering GB from the EU.

March 2022 —Physical checks to begin on live animals and low-risk plant products

From a cynical perspective, the benefit of these new deadlines for the government is that they kick the worst effects of Brexit still further down the road, delaying those empty supermarket shelves once dismissed as ‘Project Fear’. They want to get to the next election with as many voters as possible still not realising that Brexit was a bad idea and its worst impacts are yet to come. It’s a big reason why many speculate that Johnson will call an early general election.

Kali2 Tue 27-Jul-21 15:40:22

and we ain't seen nothing yet

westcountrybylines.co.uk/think-brexits-all-over.../

varian Mon 26-Jul-21 18:17:24

Yes. There never was an oven ready deal. They make it up as they go along but they never even thought about the consequences for NI.

MayBee70 Mon 26-Jul-21 12:46:09

Is it true that Johnson now wants to re negotiate the oven ready brexit deal?

Dinahmo Sat 24-Jul-21 23:08:53

Every Friday evening we meet up with a group of French friends a the local bar and the events in Britain are often a topic of conversation. Several of them have lived and worked in the UK when they were younger. In the same way that British students went grape picking, at least one of them came over to England and picked strawberries. They are genuinely saddened by current events.

MayBee70 Sat 24-Jul-21 22:57:30

But it puzzles some of us that those people are happy to make it more difficult for people to live work holiday and study in Europe.

JenniferEccles Sat 24-Jul-21 22:47:51

I think a lot of people are not aware of that fact GG13 !!

Kali2 Sat 24-Jul-21 21:40:01

Got it- we all make typos/mistakes- I was just surprised.

Dinahmo Sat 24-Jul-21 21:37:13

Kali2

Residency and nationality are 2 very separate and different things.

I know and I typed the wrong word. I'm resident in France but haven't applied for nationality. My friends did.

Kali2 Sat 24-Jul-21 21:15:16

Residency and nationality are 2 very separate and different things.

Kali2 Sat 24-Jul-21 20:22:08

Depends on the individual country.

For France, dual citizenship was officially recognized for both men and women on 9 January 1973; since then, possession of more than one nationality does not affect French nationality.

Dinahmo Sat 24-Jul-21 20:13:56

Mamie

Dinahmo you could have dual nationality in France before Brexit. I know people who got it. You can't in Spain though. They are not EU rules.

Thank you. I was told by some people living here that they couldn't apply when the UK was in the EU. They applied after the UK left and got residency.

Kali2 Sat 24-Jul-21 19:42:00

I think most young UK citizens in EU would prefer the option of double nationality- but if not, as they want to fe fully integrated and safe, and know they will never return to UK- will opt for the nationality of where they are making their life.

Mind you I know many Americans who have done the same, but in order to avoid double taxation.

GrannyGravy13 Sat 24-Jul-21 19:40:07

You do realise it’s possible to love Europe and have a second/holiday home on mainland Europe whilst not being a fan of the EU and all it has become?

Mamie Sat 24-Jul-21 19:38:49

My DS is about to become Spanish.

Kali2 Sat 24-Jul-21 19:37:27

Dinahmo

Kali2 I think that now the UK is out of the EU people could apply for dual nationality which wasn't possible whilst we were still members. It would be a good idea for young people in order to ensure their freedom of movement.

It has been allowed in France and many other EU countries for a very long time- nowt to do with Brexit.

varian Sat 24-Jul-21 19:34:27

And so many of these brexit hypocriptes, such as Nigel Lawson and Andrew Neil , chose to live in France.

Mamie Sat 24-Jul-21 19:34:17

Dinahmo you could have dual nationality in France before Brexit. I know people who got it. You can't in Spain though. They are not EU rules.

MayBee70 Sat 24-Jul-21 19:32:06

It so annoys me when brexit supporters are entitled to have Irish passports though