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Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 18-Jun-21 09:03:08

HMRC have published some figures to show that food and drink exports fell by 2bn in the first 3 months since Brexit.

Dairy was down a massive 90%? and there were losses across the board.

The figures show that rather it being a teething issue as the Tories would have us believe it is in fact structural and likely to continue unless there is some sort of move towards say the SM.

varian Tue 22-Jun-21 18:23:51

I did not make a sarcastic comment, but perhaps it was made by someone who missed Urmstongran

MawBe Tue 22-Jun-21 18:23:33

Biba70 also used to be a prolific poster on the Politics treads, especially those concerning Brexit- should her absence likewise be commented on ?

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 18:21:07

varian

Urmstongran has been a prolific poster on the Politics forum - a very energetic defender of Farage, Trump, Brexit, Boris Johnson, this Tory Government etc and that is why she has become conspicuous by her absense.

But not on this thread so I wondered why the sarcastic comment?

MawBe Tue 22-Jun-21 18:19:44

varian

Urmstongran has been a prolific poster on the Politics forum - a very energetic defender of Farage, Trump, Brexit, Boris Johnson, this Tory Government etc and that is why she has become conspicuous by her absense.

I may be wrong but think she is on holiday.
In any case, is there an obligation to post?

varian Tue 22-Jun-21 18:15:40

Urmstongran has been a prolific poster on the Politics forum - a very energetic defender of Farage, Trump, Brexit, Boris Johnson, this Tory Government etc and that is why she has become conspicuous by her absense.

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 17:45:48

Curlywhirly

Callistemon

I can't speak for Urmstongran but perhaps, like several others, she has decided that a constant stream of remarks like that mean she has left GN.

As a remain voter, I find the personal remarks and sneering unnecessary.

Urmstongran is having a break from GN at the moment (but has said she will definitely be back) so presume that is why she's not joined in this discussion.

Thank you Curlywhirly

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 17:44:41

GrannyGravy13

Dinahmo

I await comments from Urmstongrand with interest as Frost is, or maybe was, one of her heros.

Urmstongran is not on this thread, why involve her?

Exactly.

Alegrias1 Tue 22-Jun-21 17:36:21

I must shout louder grin

Parsley3 Tue 22-Jun-21 17:33:00

Alegrias1

Hello? Are my posts showing or not? Hello?

Not poppies. Not wreaths.

Umbrellas. Mugs. Scarves. Brooches.

Not poppies. NOT POPPIES.

Oh dear, I seem to have missed one of your posts.

GillT57 Tue 22-Jun-21 17:29:43

Me too. Could be a long wait

Curlywhirly Tue 22-Jun-21 17:29:34

Callistemon

I can't speak for Urmstongran but perhaps, like several others, she has decided that a constant stream of remarks like that mean she has left GN.

As a remain voter, I find the personal remarks and sneering unnecessary.

Urmstongran is having a break from GN at the moment (but has said she will definitely be back) so presume that is why she's not joined in this discussion.

Katie59 Tue 22-Jun-21 17:24:44

Nothing to do with bullying, all I am asking as politely as possible for the leavers to tell me what the benefits of Brexit are going to be.

MawBe Tue 22-Jun-21 17:14:17

My “stick” has of course got a wrong end not bend - unless it is a hockey stick? ?

MawBe Tue 22-Jun-21 17:12:54

Alegrias1

Hello? Are my posts showing or not? Hello?

Not poppies. Not wreaths.

Umbrellas. Mugs. Scarves. Brooches.

Not poppies. NOT POPPIES.

There are reasons why I frequently fail to engage with some of the more outrageous threads .
Too often there is a pattern:
Somebody makes an assertion, possibly anecdotal (they say) possibly misguided, (they have got the wrong bend of the stick) possibly based on a dodgy headline or perhaps they have not read all,the way through the article quoted.
There follow various replies, often putting OP, right, stating the true situation or confirming the facts . These posts are often ignored, despite being the truth of the situation.
Others agree and are then accused of “piling on”
OP insists they are right but even if not there is something else that they want to complain about, possibly on behalf of somebody nobody has heard of.
All those disagreeing or pointing out the irrelevance are accused of bullying
Somebody flounces
Many people sigh and put the kettle on.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 22-Jun-21 16:26:17

Dinahmo

I await comments from Urmstongrand with interest as Frost is, or maybe was, one of her heros.

Urmstongran is not on this thread, why involve her?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 22-Jun-21 16:22:24

When he was a remainer before he switched sides to further his own ends and ensure the media was on side

Alegrias1 Tue 22-Jun-21 16:16:31

I've found that disproving wild assertions with facts often gets classed as bullying.

Kali2 Tue 22-Jun-21 16:14:51

Sorry, not sure what you mean here by 'bullying'. Is asking for a list of Brexit positives bullying?

Not even the Government can find any and are advertising for someone very expensive to try and find a few.

GillT57 Tue 22-Jun-21 16:10:24

Callistemon

Anyway, my post wasn't directed at you GillT57 because you do not do that.

Thank you! -grin

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 15:57:30

Anyway, my post wasn't directed at you GillT57 because you do not do that.

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 15:56:09

GillT57

Actually the sneering came from the other direction. I can't tell you how many times I have been told to get over it, remain lost, all will be well if I could just believe, I have been accused of being unpatriotic, of being a 'leftie', of hating my country, etc., etc.,. All very tiresome, and still some of us wait for a list of the positives from the people who have landed us in this mess.

???

I'm sure there was some but not from that particular poster Perhaps the unpleasant ganging up was because most others had left the threads and perhaps GN.

I don't like what's happening either but neither can I stand bullying.

Carry on talking amongst yourselves.

Alegrias1 Tue 22-Jun-21 15:36:28

Hear hear GillT57

GillT57 Tue 22-Jun-21 15:34:44

Actually the sneering came from the other direction. I can't tell you how many times I have been told to get over it, remain lost, all will be well if I could just believe, I have been accused of being unpatriotic, of being a 'leftie', of hating my country, etc., etc.,. All very tiresome, and still some of us wait for a list of the positives from the people who have landed us in this mess.

Callistemon Tue 22-Jun-21 15:22:49

I can't speak for Urmstongran but perhaps, like several others, she has decided that a constant stream of remarks like that mean she has left GN.

As a remain voter, I find the personal remarks and sneering unnecessary.

GillT57 Tue 22-Jun-21 15:21:37

Michael Gove

The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want

Nigel Farage

To me, Brexit is easy … We have back British passports, we have control of our fishing waters, and our companies are not subject to EU law through the single market