Brexit is fast becoming a disaster

Yes the pharmacists have been warning the government. The time to act was when they were first told. This government is absolutely plagued by inertia. We can’t go on like this.

But the Brexiters will continue to shout 'scare mongering' - how many of our essential drugs and treatments are made in the UK and could be transported by the Army to keep supplies going.

I am already sourcing epipens to take over with me for my grandson.

... by train.

Just love this

Headline in the Washington Post

“Who could guess Brexit would cause food and gas shortages? Actually, anyone.”

Extract from article

“This became the core idea of the Brexit agenda: a systematic attempt to reject any notion of disadvantage while obsessing over perceived advantages. Brexit was never approached as a typical policy item, with weaknesses and strengths. It was treated instead as a crusade for patriotic meaning, in which support demonstrated national commitment. To be for Brexit was to be for Britain. To be against it was to be against Britain. Those pointing out potential problems in the Brexit project were, therefore, dismissed as traitors, “enemies of the people,” or out-of-touch metropolitan elitists.
This led to a severe deterioration in the quality of British political debate. But it also did something that would prove much more devastating to those who wanted to deliver Brexit: It prevented them from seeing the obstacles heading their way. And now they are being buffeted by crisis after crisis — all of which could be foreseen, but none of which were prepared for. We are witnessing the failure of post-truth politics not on a moral level, but on a practical one.”

I wouldn't disagree with any of that Whitewave.

I listened to the radio 4 Today programme this morning. Simon Clark, Chief Secretary to the Treasury, was adamant that the HGV problem has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit. He just wouldn't accept that the fact that many EU drivers have left the UK could possibly have aggravated the situation. We share the HGV driver shortage with the rest of the EU, he said, and Covid and demographics are to blame. Now there are huge opportunities out there and soon we'll have a pool of drivers ready. To believe that Brexit has played a part is just negative thinking, according to Simon Clark.

So there we have it. All is well.

They think we are all stupid Greta, so they tell us anything that sounds good to them. And why shouldn't they when you see what people will and have believed.

From the New Yorker

Visas for butchers now.

When are these idiots going to understand that no one will come.

For gods sake a toddler could do a better job.

Another Brexit extension from today.

Our businesses are being presented with a far from level playing field when competing with the EU businesses.

It is so unfair.

What is Patel’s problem. This isn’t even true.

Passports were needed!

Priti Patel
@pritipatel
· 4h
We're ending the use of insecure ID cards for entry into the UK to strengthen our border and deliver on the people’s priority to take back control of our immigration system.

Firm on those who seek to abuse the system.
Fair on those who play by the rules.

Whitewavemark2

What is Patel’s problem. This isn’t even true.

Passports were needed!

Priti Patel
@pritipatel
· 4h
We're ending the use of insecure ID cards for entry into the UK to strengthen our border and deliver on the people’s priority to take back control of our immigration system.

Firm on those who seek to abuse the system.
Fair on those who play by the rules.

EU citizens were able to enter U.K. with their ID cards, I have seen it at Passport Control.

growstuff

I wouldn't disagree with any of that Whitewave.

It reminds me of Trump's "Nobody knew health care could be so complicated."

I have just checked on the Government website and up till and including yesterday U.K. Citizens could enter the U.K. with their national ID cards.

As from today (01/10/21) they will have to have a passport, like everyone else.

GrannyGravy13

I have just checked on the Government website and up till and including yesterday U.K. Citizens could enter the U.K. with their national ID cards.

As from today (01/10/21) they will have to have a passport, like everyone else.

Do you men 'EU' citizens, GG13?

Yes I do sorry, I am trying to zone out Peppa Pig MaizieD

In my defence I did put EU citizens in my previous post

GrannyGravy13

I have just checked on the Government website and up till and including yesterday U.K. Citizens could enter the U.K. with their national ID cards.

As from today (01/10/21) they will have to have a passport, like everyone else.

So UK people complaina bout having to pay £7 for a Visa that will last for multiple visits. But EU people wanting to come to UK will have to spend about 10X that much and more, for biometric passports! But continue to use their ID cards within EU and Schengen!

86 Euros in France for instance - a bit cheaper for kids. So I can't see families rushing to visit the UK- somehow. And not just because of passport costs.

www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv-radio/1472148/Carole-Malone-slams-EU-for-charging-Brits-to-enter-Europe-jeremy-Vine-show-video-vn?jwsource=cl

she is such a stupid woman!

And those passports will be required for HGV drivers too - no?

Kali2

86 Euros in France for instance - a bit cheaper for kids. So I can't see families rushing to visit the UK- somehow. And not just because of passport costs.

U.K. citizens have always needed a passport to travel to EU Countries and elsewhere in the world.

(My Danish and Spanish relatives have had passports since birth, they like to travel and are not so insular that they never leave the EU borders)

Yes, I am fully aware of it.

The point being, Malone is complaining about £7 Visa- when now Europeans will have to spend more than 10x that much- which they did not have to before today, and before Brexit. Passports were only required for those who wanted to go beyond Europe. Hardly 'insular' to be happy to travel across a whole, and very varied, with lots of cultures, languages, foods, landscapes, geography, etc, etc, etc.

'Insular' is a term I'd rather use for Brexiters who wanted to choose to isolate us all from our neighbours and partners- and then bitterly complain about the consequences. As Malone ridiculous rant above.

It's not the EUs fault that the UK chose, always, not to have UK identity cards, is it!?!

Yes my grandchildren will need passports to go to the UK now. They have always travelled on Spanish identity cards. Not a big deal, but not sure what the UK gains by it?

Kali2 I have no idea who Malone is that you keep referring to.